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re: Stoner Metal/Sludge/Doom/Post-metal/Blues Rock/Psychedelia
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:08 pm to Sayre
Posted on 4/28/14 at 10:08 pm to Sayre
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I'm as or more familiar with Black Sabbath's catalog as you are and don't care what the 'critics' say. The first song on the first album is stoner. The sub-genre distinctions between stoner and doom are much too fluid to say that it nor N.I.B. nor Warning can't be labeled as stoner.
Do you play Black Sabbath songs on guitar? Are you familiar with the tunings?
The debut and Paranoid use standard tuning. Master of Reality, the third album, uses C# tuning, which was radical at that time. Modern Stoner/ Sludge/ Doom Metal songs tend to use tunings that are three or two steps down from standard.
This is the evidentiary basis for my conclusion that Master of Reality represents a seminal influence for Stoner/Sludge/Doom Metal -- the fact that the radical C# tuning was first used there, and has been replicated consistently as the genre evolved to today.
What's the evidentiary basis for YOUR opinion that it doesn't?
PS Your own opinion can't serve as the evidentiary basis for your own opinion.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 5:47 am to Champagne
Yes, I am familiar with the different tunings on a guitar. All the evidence I need is the songs themselves, which are much more than the sum of their tunings. Just because the songs from the first two albums didn't use C# doesn't mean that the basic song structure and subject matter aren't directly related to the songs on the third album. If the C# tuning is your only defining trait on what is stoner and what is not, you're splitting hairs much too finely.
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