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re: German Shepherd questions

Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by LSUVET82
Florida
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:21 pm to
I'm a vet and science diet hasn't paid me a god damn cent for my loans and that's what I feed my dog. The reason for that is hills has been around since 1890 and is the most researched and studied food on the market so your 1970's info is wrong. As for hip dysplasia it is completely hereditary though having 2 parents with good hips doesn't guarantee pup will. You can fully assess hips till done growing and that's where poor diet plays a role and may exaggerate hip dysplasia but does not cause it. As for allergies I have seen dogs allergic to chicken have allergies from raw diet. Dogs can be allergic to all kinds of proteins.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25240 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 10:34 pm to
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I'm a vet and science diet hasn't paid me a god damn cent for my loans and that's what I feed my dog.


When was this ever stated or insinuated?

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The reason for that is hills has been around since 1890 and is the most researched and studied food on the market so your 1970's info is wrong

You may have me here as I don't know a lot about commercial dog food, but I am talking about commercial, mass produced food, not a random few cases of people developing their own canine food. Obviously dogs can survive and in some cases thrive on this stuff, but as much as a raw diet? No.

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While the controversy continued on dog nutrition, new forms of packaged dog foods were appearing on the market. The depression in the 1930’s also prompted dog owners to look for less expensive methods to feed their pets. Less raw meat was fed, and more grains and cereal products were introduced in home diets. Canned meat products were introduced in the 1940’s and in 1943, dehydrated dog food was introduced, with the instructions of ‘just add water’.

Dog food was only invented to create cheaper, easier means to feed.
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The sales of dry processed dog foods picked up considerably after World War II. Mill operators and grain dealers were finding a good source for their by-products in the dog industry. Slaughterhouses were also available to sell non-human grade, diseased meats, unusable parts, and meat by-products to pet food manufacturers. This created a market for products that previously had been discarded. Since many of these meat sources were non-human grade, the practice became common to mix these with the grains and cook them together for many hours or days to kill bacteria and disease. The final mix was then formed into pellets that were easily bagged for convenience of feeding.

Sounds delicious. And natural. And healthy as shite.
You're right, dogs are nothing like their wild peers.
Too far removed.
This post was edited on 3/8/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 3/8/13 at 11:09 pm to
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I'm a vet and science diet hasn't paid me a god damn cent for my loans and that's what I feed my dog. The reason for that is hills has been around since 1890 and is the most researched and studied food on the market so your 1970's info is wrong. As for hip dysplasia it is completely hereditary though having 2 parents with good hips doesn't guarantee pup will. You can fully assess hips till done growing and that's where poor diet plays a role and may exaggerate hip dysplasia but does not cause it. As for allergies I have seen dogs allergic to chicken have allergies from raw diet. Dogs can be allergic to all kinds of proteins.



And there you go. I'm not a vet. I was vet tech before I got into human medicine. While our domestic dogs might look and act like their wild cousins, they are VERY far removed. If you have a puppy that is already genetically predisposed to hip dysplasia the worse thing you can do is feed them a high diet of raw protein and pack weight on them. Accelerating their growth will only worsen the problems they already are predisposed to having.
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