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My favorite coaching story. Top of the first, my pitcher hits the first two batters, walks the third and wild pitches to cleanup. I go out and try to calm him down and tell him not to worry. Hits the next batter and I go out and tell him we have another game on Saturday and don't worry about this game because we all have off days.

He goes to the dugout and I stay and watch my relief pitcher throw his warm ups. His mother goes to the dugout and starts screaming "why aren't you pitching?" Then , "what kind of stupid coach takes you out of a game? What is he thinking?"

By then his dad joins in and he and the wife shout back and forth to each other regarding the dumb coach. I looked at my assistant coach who was standing by me and told him, " I think in the future I shall be a bleacher dad and just watch the game" I did finish out the season and ended my "coach" other kids phase of my life. These were 10 year old boys.






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rd280z
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Enjoy it and teach the kids the best that you can. The parents will be your biggest problem





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Forgiving Morgan
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The best advice I was given in this thread was to have a parents only meeting before the first practice. I had a come to Jesus with 11 people I didn't know, and put rules in place. Not having a kid playing or assistants with kids playing has been a big plus to this point.

We got screwed in the draft (collusion definitely exists in 11-12 baseball), and are probably in the bottom 1/3 of the league talent wise, but were able to win the first game of the season against the best pitcher in the league, and maybe the state. Thanks to all who advised. It is definitely a different world than when I was this age. 1-0!






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Steamy Ray
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Good luck man. Coaching is a constant adventure for sure. At that age, just make sure the kids are learning the game and playing hard. The fun of the game comes with that

Just don't let the parents get in the way






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By 11 and 12 years old most good players are playing travel ball. Very few good players are playing in leagues by that age. You will probably have what's left. Of course there are might be some leagues that are the exception. It will be kids playing for fun even if their parents don't realize they aren't very good. It should be more laid back than travel ball.





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Good for you, coach em up do you have playoffs that everyone get into? If so, experiment now set your lineup and pitchers while a loss here or there won't hurt







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Forgiving Morgan
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The league Im in makes a concerted effort to cater to travel ball kids. No weekend games, etc. Out of roughly 100 kids, there are probably 30 that play travel ball. I got 1. A 10 year old playing up.





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my advice...

bring out the local HS coach to watch your team. he'll get a look at future possible talent and you'll get advice from someone who's been there done that. if you have a good kid, try to steer him there and you might get a Cecil Newton deal out of it

W's and L's don't matter till HS anyway

have a pool or pizza party at the end of the season

don't scrimmage a girls' softball team

don't carry that many kids. it makes it easier to give them all playing time






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Darth_Vader
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<- Been coaching little league for years.

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bring out the local HS coach to watch your team. he'll get a look at future possible talent and you'll get advice from someone who's been there done that.


Very true. We're lucky in my hometown in that the HS is very supportive of youth rec sports (baseball, basketball & football). The coaches hold regular clinics and many of the players come to practices and work drills with the boys as well. This is huge because these kids look up to these HS players and really respond well to them.

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W's and L's don't matter till HS anyway


This is true... to an extent. The thing a youth coach has to remember is that above all else, his job is to teach kids the following;

1. Fundamentals of the game
2. Teamwork & sportsmanship
3. Doing things right on and off the field

But at the same time, winning does matter. And I'm not talking about us coaches or the parents. Winning matters to the boys. I've coached for years and have noticed the older they get the more winning matters. It can and does directly affect how much, or little they enjoy the game.

The key is that you have to find a balance of your main goals stated above with having a winning program. But it's not as had as many think. It's been my experience that if you focus on the three things I listed above, more often than not winning will take care of itself.

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have a pool or pizza party at the end of the season


This is a must.

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don't scrimmage a girls' softball team


Never had that issue come up.

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don't carry that many kids. it makes it easier to give them all playing time


This can ruin an entire season for kids. I have 12 boys on my team. I think the ideal is 11 or 12 at this level. But even with this number there are times where it's difficult to get them all in. The biggest problem with having too many kids on one team though is that it limits the time you have as a coach to do one on one teaching of game fundamentals.






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shoelessjoe
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Parents will always be the biggest problem. They all think their kid is the next big superstar. Have a coaches parent meeting and lay down rules. The REC manager should allow you to have the pick out of the pool of players minus coaches sons and what have you. This should level playing field. Good Luck and god bless.





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The best advice I was given in this thread was to have a parents only meeting before the first practice.


You're welcome.






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Above all, have the parents meeting to lay down the law.
Draft the kids who play soccer. They are usually fast.
Ask your son who is the fastest kid in his grade. Draft him.
Draft a kid who's mom is divorced with a boob job.
Draft the kid who has a pool, (hopefully with a divorced mom and new boobs).
Scouting is key for the draft.
You are only honest to yourself on draft day.
Teach them to hit with a tee.
Read a book on coaching.
Find a place to practice, field space is a precious commodity.
Get a high school or college kid who played baseball to help.
Know the rules and use them to your advantage.
Develop extra pitchers, this will be very important when your ace is sick, grounded or when they reach pitch limits.






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saturday
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How do you know who to draft if you don't have any kids in the league?





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Choot em Tiger
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Teach these kids how to frickin bunt. Small ball may be boring but 11-12 year olds make throwing errors out the a-hole





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Darth_Vader
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How do you know who to draft if you don't have any kids in the league?


That's what evaluations are for.Not sure how it works down there, but here in my hometown once regestration is over, we hold a day of evaluations where the boys are put through a series of stations where they show their skills on everything from fielding a grounder to hitting the ball. All the coaches in that age group are there observing. Either that night or the next day the draft is held.

But really by the time you've made it up to the 11&12 yr age group, these coaches have been with these boys long enough to pretty well know what all of them can and can't do. For example of the 12 boys on my team, there's only two I've never coached before and they're new to the area (twin brothers oddly enough. I've got two sets of identical twins on the team and it makes things difficult at times to say the least). The rest of the boys on the team, I've coached since they were 5 yr old tballers. Some I've had on my team off and on over the years while a some I've coached every single year.






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Scouting , go to try outs, take notes, get an assistant who knows the kids. Youth baseball is a science all to itself.





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Yewkindewit
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Talk to some who played/coached there. The new guy usually gets hosed in the draft by the incumbent coaches. Add to that he fact that you played and coached at several levels, other coaches may fear that. If you go into the draft cold, use your baseball instincts in try outs for rating kids since you know what it takes to play. You need a good pitcher-catcher battery and skill up the middle. I drafted small and speedy guys who can run bases, shrink the trike zone, and can get a ball in back in quickly. Look for raw kids who are athletic. Once you get your team, teach FUNDAMENTALS, until thy are sick of it. Fewer errors make up for a lot. In that age group, short quick compact swings and lying off the off speed pitches is a must. Pitch to spots a lot due to wide strike zones in park ball.

As for parents, you have an advantage not having a kid on the team. When they say to you that their kid always played SMS, or CF, or batted cleanup, you can say they will play where you see an advantage to the team and practice will determine all of that. Play as many practice games as possible.

Finally, set up practice in small groups so EVERYONE is doing something all the time. Parents appreciate working them harder at this age because players will be working towards try outs for middle school teams. Make them work.

Kick some arse man!






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Darth_Vader
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Teach these kids how to frickin bunt. Small ball may be boring but 11-12 year olds make throwing errors out the a-hole


If they've been taught good fielding and throwing fundamentals, throwing errors should be relatively rare. For example my team has played a total of 6 games thus far (3 preseason exhibition, 3 reg season games). In those six games we have a total of 10 errors committed.






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Yewkindewit
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Oh, and be firm with rules and be honest about a kids abilities,or lack thereof, when talking to parents. A parent meting quickly after draft is the way to go. Good luck!





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Darth_Vader
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be honest about a kids abilities,or lack thereof, when talking to parents


This can be one of the more difficult aspects of coaching youth baseball, especially when the parent in one of your assistant coaches. Many parents tend to be totally blind to their kids actually abilities. Either they think their kid should be the starting SS or they think he should be riding the pine.

I've found the best way to approach situations like this is to make them see that you assign positions based on what is best for the team and also the kid himself. It's not fair to either the team or the child to put him in a postion that he lacks the ability to play successfully. To put him there only sets him up for failure.






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