First off, it's what made shows like The Office an international success.

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An interview with Allison Williams, while mostly about her background and influences, it hits on a few redeeming/interesting recent plot points that you seem to discard in your crusade against the show.

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The 20-something female’s quest to find meaningful love and status in the world is a subject for the ages. What Jane Austen began in Victorian novels took off on television with The Mary Tyler Moore Show in the ’70s and Sex and the City in the ’90s. With Girls, Lena Dunham takes on the subject for the millennial generation. Allison Williams, who plays Marnie Michaels, the textbook-pretty and trying-desperately-to-be-perfect foil to Dunham’s fumbling Hannah Hovarth, is at the center of a bona fide cultural phenomenon. Girls is a lightning rod. Although there’s been a lot of fuss about the show’s frank sexuality, what is truly provocative about Girls is its relentless exploration of motivations and emotions—never letting any of the characters off the hook—and the creator’s willingness to allow her heroines to be their complicated selves, flaws and all.

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BC: When your character, Marnie, tells Hannah she’s beautiful, does she mean it?

AW: She definitely means it. If Marnie had the confidence, she’d just tell Hannah how jealous she is of the parts of Hannah’s personality she lacks. But I think that requires a lot of self-reflection and confidence, to go on about someone when you’re in an intimate friendship[.]

BC: Let’s talk about the relationships in the series—how desperate your character became when her ex found someone else in five minutes. My husband, watching the show with me, said, “Oh, come on! A beautiful girl like that, she wouldn’t care.” People think pretty girls never have any romantic problems.

AW: In that situation it’s as much about Charlie as it is about control. The comfort of having this ex-boyfriend in her control is very appealing, because she can use that as a safety net until she finds someone to move on to. The fact that he beats her to the punch—leaving her alone, feeling isolated and undesirable—is unfathomable and unbearable to her, and unexpected. For her to go right into a relationship would have been less interesting.

Flow - you're going to tell me, even as a guy, you've never been in Marnie's shows vis a vis Charlie in a past relationship? Things like that are relatable and entertaining.

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Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:02 am to Jwodie

Soooooo, pics of shirt?

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Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:03 am to Jwodie

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Although there’s been a lot of fuss about the show’s frank sexuality, what is truly provocative about Girls is its relentless exploration of motivations and emotions—never letting any of the characters off the hook—and the creator’s willingness to allow her heroines to be their complicated selves, flaws and all.

The show constantly lets the characters "off the hook" for being so terrible by providing outside influences that explain why they're so shitty.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:08 am to Jwodie

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First off, it's what made shows like The Office an international success.

the office became a success because it was a romantic comedy based around jim and pam, with some wacky hijinks to keep things going

by the time they resolved their plotline, people were already 'in' and kept watching. the show dropped off noticeably

and even then, the awkward situations involved non-real characters who were tools to showcase this. plus there were set ups and punchlines, which girls doesn't do

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Girls is its relentless exploration of motivations and emotions—never letting any of the characters off the hook

like when? and in what sort of organized manner?

the show fails to do this well. last episode was a great example of my point. hannah and marnie go crazy, literally at the drop of a hat

and they "let the characters off teh hook" when they give backstories/excuses for their shtity behavior

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The comfort of having this ex-boyfriend in her control is very appealing, because she can use that as a safety net until she finds someone to move on to. The fact that he beats her to the punch—leaving her alone, feeling isolated and undesirable—is unfathomable and unbearable to her, and unexpected. For her to go right into a relationship would have been less interesting.

she did go pretty much right into what she thought was a relationship...