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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Private research isn't comprehensive enough because each entity is only looking at things that pertain to their market


This






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Zach
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Says the guy that starts threads based on what he heard Rush say...

Lame.






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SlowFlowPro
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


how were new markets ever created prior to the federal government funding research?





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MrCarton
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Private research isn't comprehensive enough because each entity is only looking at things that pertain to their market


This



How is this philosophically different than grant incentives?

Grant research isn't comprehensive enough because each entity is only looking at things that pertain to their grant application?

Wouldn't a more fluid, free market, stimulate more diverse research?








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Powerman
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Lame.


But it's true

Can you really claim that his source is biased when you start threads about what you hear on Rush?






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Powerman
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Wouldn't a more fluid, free market, stimulate more diverse research?


No

Because there are some things that private entities don't have any interest in researching







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MrCarton
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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how were new markets ever created prior to the federal government funding research?



Kinda curious about this as well.







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MrCarton
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Because there are some things that private entities don't have any interest in researching


We are not going to agree on this issue I suppose.


Philosophical differences and all that.






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hawkster
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


Bloated academic overhead and waste in higher education today makes research funding one of the least efficient expenditures of public money in history.

If a legitimate government function needs research into an issue, then fund it with the tightest of restrictions on overhead. If the research is not directly related to a vital government function, then the private sector will fund it if it has any legitimate potential.






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Powerman
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


Governments throughout the history of mankind have funded research

So there probably isn't really an answer to that question






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NC_Tigah
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so if i'm leaving my house to take care of some errands, does that mean i am defaulting the discussion to you?
Sounds more like you're defaulting to Mrs. VOR.






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Powerman
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We are not going to agree on this issue I suppose.


Right. Because you just keep regurgitating libertarian orthodoxy and refuse to think outside of that box.






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MrCarton
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If a legitimate government function needs research into an issue, then fund it with the tightest of restrictions on overhead. If the research is not directly related to a vital government function, then the private sector will fund it if it has any legitimate potential.



Can you dig it?






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Zach
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But it's true Can you really claim that his source is biased when you start threads about what you hear on Rush?

PM, you're getting to be a real arse hole. So, let me use really simple terms that even you might understand.

When I get up at 5 a.m. I check Drudge Report. I go to at least 20 links off Drudge...both lib and con.

At 6 a.m. I listen to network news on radio while driving into town.

At 6:30 a.m. I read the NYT and WSJ at Starbucks. At 7 a.m. I start lifting and running while discussing politics in the gym with people of various views.

I get home at 10 am and start posting here.

Rush doesn't come on till 11 am. How in the hell can I be copying Rush before he comes on?






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Interception
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


Well, we can start with George Washington initiating a protection of patent rights to “give effectual encouragement…to the introduction of new and useful inventions.” There is no doubt that the consensus of America’s founders was that the government should promote innovation.







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MrCarton
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Right. Because you just keep regurgitating libertarian orthodoxy and refuse to think outside of that box.


Brother, this isn't true at all. I don't hold any allegiance to a libertarian orthodoxy.






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SlowFlowPro
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re: What should be the federal government's role in funding research?


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Well, we can start with George Washington initiating a protection of patent rights to “give effectual encouragement…to the introduction of new and useful inventions.”

that's government protection, not government funding

and that is a huge mess currently and needs to be completely revised for today's world, but i digress

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There is no doubt that the consensus of America’s founders was that the government should promote innovation.

it did...by allowing patents and other IP protection






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MrCarton
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Well, we can start with George Washington initiating a protection of patent rights to “give effectual encouragement…to the introduction of new and useful inventions.” There is no doubt that the consensus of America’s founders was that the government should promote innovation.



This might spark a whole new conversation. The train is switching rails to the IP tracks.






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Powerman
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Rush doesn't come on till 11 am. How in the hell can I be copying Rush before he comes on?


So you've never started a thread about something that you heard on Rush?

I didn't say you were "copying" him. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of you bickering over a source being biased when you consistently used biased sources yourself.







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PrimeTime Money
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Yes you do.





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