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revenue-raising tax reform does not equal new taxes.
I doubt that'll get through, so ill repeat it.






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baybeefeetz
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it's not a disopute you clown. it's a fact Obama agreed to seek no new taxes as part of the deal.


I am referring to the dispute between Sperling and Woodward. You can say it's not really a dispute, but that's beside the point: the subject of this thread.

You are the worst poster on here. ever.






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Taxing Authority
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Obama is good at campaigning, sucks at governing. So he campaigns.
Indeed. On the sequestration, he's campaigning against himself. It's bizarro world... where abject intellectual dishonestly is not only ignored, but defended.

If I were a thinking, reasoned democrat, I'd be ashamed. They deserve better than this






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NC_Tigah
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Decatur
Unfortunately you did not read #4. If you had, you would have discovered that the POTUS proposal, that the POTUS pushed, that the POTUS authored, that originated with the POTUS included a Section 4 below the Section 3 you quoted.

Here is Section 4
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4. A STRONG ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO MAKE ALL SIDES COME TOGETHER

The Deal Includes An Automatic Sequester to Ensure That At Least $1.2 Trillion in Deficit Reduction Is Achieved By 2013 Beyond the Discretionary Caps: The deal includes an automatic sequester on certain spending programs to ensure that—between the Committee and the trigger—we at least put in place an additional $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction by 2013.

Consistent With Past Practice, Sequester Would Be Divided Equally Between Defense and Non-Defense Programs and Exempt Social Security, Medicaid, and Low-Income Programs: Consistent with the bipartisan precedents established in the 1980s and 1990s, the sequester would be divided equally between defense and non-defense program, and it would exempt Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, programs for low-income families, and civilian and military retirement. Likewise, any cuts to Medicare would be capped and limited to the provider side.
Sequester Would Provide a Strong Incentive for Both Sides to Come to the Table: If the fiscal committee took no action, the deal would automatically add nearly $500 billion in defense cuts on top of cuts already made, and, at the same time, it would cut critical programs like infrastructure or education. That outcome would be unacceptable to many Republicans and Democrats alike – creating pressure for a bipartisan agreement without requiring the threat of a default with unthinkable consequences for our economy.
Now I'm not a lawyer, but it appears to me the Sequester was the President's idea, the President's proposal, and included no taxes whatsoever.






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bgator85
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He also has to actually work with the opposition to create some sentiment of cooperation. The man seems adverse to actually publicly or privately working with those who have differing positions and agendas.


Agreed, but I just think the attacks on his 'campaigning' are tired. It is part of the job and something that has been going on forever. There has to be balance between the two. I'm guessing he would argue the opposition hasn't exactly been too willing to cooperate, thus he stumps his positions more to try and get the public to really push the opposition into the direction he wants.



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baybeefeetz
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Now I'm not a lawyer, but it appears to me the Sequester was the President's idea, the President's proposal, and included no taxes whatsoever.


Right, but everybody knows that the idea was to get back to the table and come up with a plan to reduce the deficit. The replacement of the sequester was not agreed to. If it had been, there would be no need for the sequester.







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NC_Tigah
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Right, but everybody knows that the idea was to get back to the table and come up with a plan to reduce the deficit.
Except the President has made no attempt to "get back to the table", and the Senate has forwarded not one single offering in negotiation.






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baybeefeetz
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Except the President has made no attempt to "get back to the table", and the Senate has forwarded not one single offering in negotiation.


Sure. That's different from what Woodward is saying.






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pitsa_bantu
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Except the President has made no attempt to "get back to the table", and the Senate has forwarded not one single offering in negotiation.
You seem to have some inside information. Please tell us more...






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Decatur
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Unfortunately you did not read #4. If you had, you would have discovered that the POTUS proposal, that the POTUS pushed, that the POTUS authored, that originated with the POTUS included a Section 4 below the Section 3 you quoted.


That's all fine and dandy but it has nothing to do with the email Woodward is complaining about

And btw we wouldn't be in this situation if Republicans had just allowed a clean vote on the debt ceiling






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pitsa_bantu
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And btw we wouldn't be in this situation if Republicans had just allowed a clean vote on the debt ceiling

This is something every single conservative is bitching about when they know very well some republicans voted for the sequester. It reminds me of Paul Ryan during the debates blaming the Prez for the same vote he took on this very issue.






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Bayou Sam
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So has the right wing of this board officially acknowledged that they were had once again by their media's lust for hysteria?





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NC_Tigah
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And btw we wouldn't be in this situation if Republicans had just allowed a clean vote on the debt ceiling
Nor would we be in this situation if the Senate had done its job. They haven't. We are.

OTOH, I know you have no problem taking our kids money and giving it away to various causes you adore. I know carefree deficit spenders don't give a rat's arse about the next generations they're hosing, but the debt ceiling has a purpose.






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CptBengal
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I am referring to the dispute between Sperling and Woodward.
eep trying champ. you're on to #3 now....maybe this one will work?

NOPE. The dispute is because Sperling didnt want Woodward to report facts. Why do you hate factual journalism?

Why does Sperling?

And good god you're a fricking moron. Three different spins in 4 pages






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Rex
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Now I'm not a lawyer, but it appears to me the Sequester was the President's idea, the President's proposal, and included no taxes whatsoever.

I don't think you grasp the point of the sequester.






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Rickety Cricket
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Rex

How do you feel about the White House threatening journalists?






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Decatur
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Nor would we be in this situation if the Senate had done its job. They haven't. We are.


Dems have a Senate bill up for consideration later today. It is expected to be filibustered also.






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baybeefeetz
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Okay, dummy. Whatever you say. tell us more about how Obama rigged protection of his compensation into the debt deal.





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CptBengal
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Okay, dummy. Whatever you say


First you say Woodward was wrong about who came up with sequestration...you got bitch slapped with truth.

Then you start on some bull shite about it never mentioned or there was no deal about not raising taxes....slapped with truth again.

Now you say there is a dispute becuase there isa dispute?



You honestly are so stupid you believe dropping the rationale will somehow make your point correct, after being wrong twice? that's a whole lotts lulzy!


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tell us more about how Obama rigged protection of his compensation into the debt deal.


Page 19 of the sequester. Why was it in there? Do you know? If it was Constitutionally protected, why add that phrase?

Was the Constitutional scholar ignorant of the Constitution? most likely.






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Godfather1
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Page 19 of the sequester. Why was it in there? Do you know? If it was Constitutionally protected, why add that phrase?


Caesar got to get paid, son.






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