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re: Hornets and Kings having a great battle at worst attendance in the league
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:44 pm to GumBro Jackson
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:44 pm to GumBro Jackson
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Does everyone think it is mostly the team's struggles that are causing the attendance problems? Definitely the team is down this year, but other teams with worse records (Bobcats, Magic, etc) have better attendance, and it isn't like Charlotte is known as an amazing NBA city.
I would have thought the #1 draft pick would have helped bump the numbers, but this is the worst year since the early/mid 2000's.
Do people think that the rebrand next season will help or that it will almost completely be a function of how the does in the win-loss columns?
the honest to God truth and the elephant in the room that no one ever wants to address is the fact that the Gulf South is not a good basketball market. even when the Hornets were a solid playoff teams for three seasons the attendance was never anything to brag about. the absolute best attendance year for the Hornets was the 2008-09 season immediately following the season before where they made a decent playoff run (second round) and the average attendance that season was 16,968. prior to that season it was around 14k and then the very next season in 2010 it was around 15k and it hasn't been higher than that ever since.
the only way this team will ever get good fan support is if they win a championship plain and simple and it would only last while and only when the team is winning. that is not a good thing. that tells you the market here is terrible for basketball.
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:08 pm to Weebie
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the only way this team will ever get good fan support is if they win a championship plain and simple and it would only last while and only when the team is winning. that is not a good thing. that tells you the market here is terrible for basketball.
It's true.
Homers on this board will argue otherwise, but in reality it is hard to get people to go to games. Most people I know could give two shits about the Hornets. I have a small core of friends that follow the team and that is it.
It will always be a football town.
Although I would love to see more people go to games, whatevs. I take advantage of the seats available to lounge out. I can get rowdy and not spill beer on anyone and sometimes even get away with a quick puff
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:24 pm to Weebie
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the honest to God truth and the elephant in the room that no one ever wants to address is the fact that the Gulf South is not a good basketball market.
The NBA disagreed in 2002, 2007, and 2012.
The honest to god truth is that the Hornets lack substantial corporate support and the key factors for getting attendance up: winning this season, winning last season, star power, legacy.
The other honest to god truth is that ATTENDANCE ISN'T AN ISSUE!!!! If it was, they wouldn't lower prices. Rather, they'd say, "The prices are fine, the team is fine; support the team or we are gone (in 2024)." That isn't happening. Rather, they are adjusting prices to fit the market with full knowledge of what the market factors really are.
Why not track hot dog sales? Temperature in the Arena? Which drink machines fill cups the most? Those matter just as much at present.
So keep focusing on useless things (at this times), keep raging at EXPECTED PERFORMANCE, keep complaining to complain. Meanwhile, others will focus on things that are relevant.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:23 pm to Weebie
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the honest to God truth and the elephant in the room that no one ever wants to address is the fact that the Gulf South is not a good basketball market. even when the Hornets were a solid playoff teams for three seasons the attendance was never anything to brag about. the absolute best attendance year for the Hornets was the 2008-09 season immediately following the season before where they made a decent playoff run (second round) and the average attendance that season was 16,968. prior to that season it was around 14k and then the very next season in 2010 it was around 15k and it hasn't been higher than that ever since.
the only way this team will ever get good fan support is if they win a championship plain and simple and it would only last while and only when the team is winning. that is not a good thing. that tells you the market here is terrible for basketball.
You're not exactly accurate in your analysis, but I'm not going to argue with you. It's a waste of time.
I actually have a question that I'd like you to answer. Does this constant bloviating about attendance have some sort of cathartic effect for you? Do you somehow feel you are making a point on a fan site by beating this particular dead horse? Seriously. I'd like to know your point.
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