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re: 'Tyrann Mathieu will be a baller in the NFL. Immediately.' Deion Sanders
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:47 am to UPT
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:47 am to UPT
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He measured in at hair over 5'8
False, 5'9" according to NFL.com, nfldraftscout, etc. Please provide documentation to the contrary. So, wrong already.
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The Saints have too many holes and too few draft picks to go wasting one on a Nickle CB and return specialist
He is exactly what they need in terms of SKILLSET. The Saints defense doesn't need particular positions as much as they need guys who can do particular things. A) Pass Rush B) Stop Run C) MAKE PLAYS.
That defense desperately needs someone that can change a game, that can make a play. Tyrann is a guy that does that.
I've never said "We need to draft Mathieu" as far as I can recall. I've said he we desperately need his skillset.
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The only reason he gets so much attention with Saints fans in this draft is because he went to LSU.
Then why are the guys on NFLN cumming their pants over how well he's doing? I guarantee you there are lots of message boards talking about him right now, of all teams. This one just happens to have a lot more people that have seen him play, a lot.
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:48 am to DoubleDown
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Ding ding ding. It's a knockout and UPT wins.
/endThread
Not even close. I never took you for a retard.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:48 am to Fun Bunch
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Not even close. I never took you for a retard.
you were fooled. DD has never brought shite to this board and gets a pass for civility sometimes.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:52 am to UPT
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It has to do with the NFL and trusting a 20 year old kid with lots of money and responsibility.
Plenty of kids could be considered "headcases" each year. Uh..A young WR from the Cowboys ring a bell?
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He measured in at hair over 5'8 and that's fricking short for an NFL player any way you slice it.
Antoine Winfield laughs at you
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The Saints have too many holes and too few draft picks to go wasting one on a Nickle CB and return specialist with proven issues off the field! I get that you all loved him at LSU and he was fun to watch but try to be level headed and take off the purple and gold glasses while we're talking Saints.
Then again, in a sort of reverse of what you are trying to say--you actually probably don't want the guy BECAUSE of what you've heard/occasionally seen about him at LSU. He liked to smoke pot and needed a big attitude/life adjustment..Doesn't change the fact that the guy is a ballhawk and playmaker. You do realize that this guy was a projected first round pick before these incidents?
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This would have been an acceptable excuse the first time he got busted, but after he continued to smoke pot even after it had ruined his college career is appalling.
It's too bad you're not the one calling the shots. Plenty of teams will be willing to take a "chance" on Mathieu
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You're wrong. I want a ball hawk, Darren Sharper type in our secondary as much as anyone but TM isn't that guy. The only reason he gets so much attention with Saints fans in this draft is because he went to LSU.
He's not a ballhawk? LOL..GTFO man. Darren Sharper is a safety anyway, at least make a parallel comparison
If he's there in the 3rd, the Saints could take him and have a guy who could develop into a big playmaker in the future. Is he a lockdown corner? Not necessarily, but he is good in press coverage and would compliment our other guys VERY well. Honestly, any position on D needs at least a bit of an upgrade, so taking Mathieu wouldn't be a stretch IMHO
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:05 am to UPT
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The only reason he gets so much attention with Saints fans in this draft is because he went to LSU.
If you watched any of the combine today you'd realize the attention he is getting isn't coming from Saints or LSU fans.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:08 am to 228Tiger
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You do realize that this guy was a projected first round pick before these incidents?
This is true. Kiper said he would of been his #2 on the big board if he would of player junior year and done similar things he did his fresh and soph year.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:08 am to 228Tiger
It's ok to say you're more of an LSU fan than a Saints fan. I don't expect most of you on a LSU centered website to agree. Tyrann Mathieu is a horrible pick for The Saints at any round and a bad pick for any team in the NFL below the 5th round.
I don't give a frick what Neon Dion has to say.
I'm not going to keep doing this with a bunch of LSU homers.
We have to hit a straight up home run in this draft and taking your favorite LSU player isn't part of that. If we had the luxury of a few extra picks and not having to rebuild the worst defense in NFL history it would be more of an option to take an undersized situational player.
I don't give a frick what Neon Dion has to say.
I'm not going to keep doing this with a bunch of LSU homers.
We have to hit a straight up home run in this draft and taking your favorite LSU player isn't part of that. If we had the luxury of a few extra picks and not having to rebuild the worst defense in NFL history it would be more of an option to take an undersized situational player.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:11 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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I really regret not getting to see him play as a Junior.
Why would you regret that? He should regret it.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:12 am to UPT
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UPT
It's ok to say you're more of an LSU fan than a Saints fan. I don't expect most of you on a LSU centered website to agree. Tyrann Mathieu is a horrible pick for The Saints at any round and a bad pick for any team in the NFL below the 5th round.
*bookmark this post*
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:13 am to UPT
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It's ok to say you're more of an LSU fan than a Saints fan
You're a complete moron.
I've followed the Saints long before I did LSU. Kindly GTFO with your buddy DoubleDown
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:15 am to UPT
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I'm not going to keep doing this with a bunch of LSU homers.
<----- Not an LSU homer. Been to 2 games in my life. I like LSU and want them to win, and I watch their games for the most part, but it doesn't ruin my life when they lose.
I'm a Saints fan. Tyrann Mathieu is a very good football player with a great skillset. His combine workouts have been stellar outside of BP. I'm not privy to interviews.
If the Saints take the chance, I'm behind it.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:17 am to UPT
Personally, I think you're letting your biases cloud your judgment even more than LSU homers.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:20 am to Fun Bunch
Tyrann needs to go to a team with a stable coaching staff, a team needing playmakers in the return game and defensive side, a team with great locker room chemistry and a great team leader, a team that has defensive veterans that can bring Tyrann along and show him the ropes of dedication, a team that won't need him to start immediately and allow his contributions to come naturally on the field..... what a horrible fit the saints would be.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:20 am to Fun Bunch
Rob Ryan yawns at TM's jump 
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:23 am to Chad504boy
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a team that won't need him to start immediately
Right. When you field the worst defense in NFL history you can just go out and draft players who don't need to contribute right away.
I must be taking fricking crazy pills.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:27 am to Chad504boy
Alot has been made of TM's attitude and off field problems. How he could be a major headache for some team.
I actualy think that getting TM early in his career would be best. I think being drafted 2-4th rds will get him to work and practice hard and prove himself so as to get that BIG contract all players look for when his rookie deal ends.
He does have attitude or swag.
Our def doesn't. We need players that are around the ball. He is not a lock down corner but I think he can make plays for some NFL team.
I actualy think that getting TM early in his career would be best. I think being drafted 2-4th rds will get him to work and practice hard and prove himself so as to get that BIG contract all players look for when his rookie deal ends.
He does have attitude or swag.
Our def doesn't. We need players that are around the ball. He is not a lock down corner but I think he can make plays for some NFL team.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:28 am to UPT
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Tyrann Mathieu is a horrible pick for The Saints at any round and a bad pick for any team in the NFL below the 5th round.
I don't like him as a pick for the saints because it would do him good to get out of Louisiana, but saying he would be a bad pick before the 5th is ignorant.
Lets say your a team in the 3rd like the packers, Seahawks, 49ers, Steelers. A team with a good D and already solid, proven CBs. And you want a defensive playmaker that can be your 3rd CB/ NB and can blitz, cover a slot, and help out on special teams. A guy that will be a good kick off coverage guy, gunner on punt team, and a good return guy. And a lot of teams want and look for a guy like this in the 3rd. Hell the saints took Johnny Patrick in the 3rd because of his gunner skills, and he just got cut. Tyrann is better than him.
Why wouldn't you take tyrann? Because he has off the field issues?? Do you know how many players in the NFL have off the field issues, especially when they are young and just getting started in the league? A lot. I'm not calling him a lock down CB that can guard the other teams #1WR, but he's a playmaker in the pass and run game, and on special teams. Good tackler that can get after the QB in blitzes and wreck havoc.
He won't make it past the 3rd.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:29 am to UPT
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Right. When you field the worst defense in NFL history you can just go out and draft players who don't need to contribute right away.
I must be taking fricking crazy pills.
3rd and 4th rounders aren't really expected to start immediately. Contribute, yes.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:29 am to UPT
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Right. When you field the worst defense in NFL history you can just go out and draft players who don't need to contribute right away.
I must be taking fricking crazy pills.
You just need to settle down with a dictionary and find the differences of start and contribute.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 11:30 am to UPT
To say that the only reason people on here are interested in drafting TM is because he went to LSU is pretty stupid. Forgetting the fact that he was a HEISMAN candidate a season ago and one of the greatest playmaking defenders in CFB history? If I were to claim to want to draft Bacari Rambo or a small school player with good measurables that I saw play once and watched youtube video of people would have no problem with it. But the minute someone suggests an LSU player its a joke and they are a homer. LSU has put more players in the NFL lately than any other school, so its not farfetched to suggest drafting one.
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