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Big Lake 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:48 pm to DWag215)
If you have 15 minutes of highlights as a sophomore in Texas that is all world
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DWag215 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:55 pm to Big Lake)
Big Lake, you've got some knowledge.
Are you very familiar with other Texas CBs?
What do you think of Darrion Johnson from Brenham?
Do you know anything about TAMU commit Cedric Collins?
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deuce985
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:06 pm to DWag215)
You don't always see eliteness on the highlight films because they're just that - highlights. Sometimes they're not put together well and very rarely show weaknesses of a player. The better gauge is offer lists and he has it. Sure, you get diamond in the roughs but if everyone and their mother wants him, you know he's a bluechip prospect. His athleticism is elite. All it takes is someone to mold it for him.
Also, this is early film. Wait until better film comes out and I'm willing to bet TAMU fans will change their tune...or not.
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DWag215
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:09 pm to deuce985)
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Wait until better film comes out and I'm willing to bet TAMU fans will change their tune...or not.
There's no tune to change--we want Brown badly.
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Maximus
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:14 pm to DWag215)
Taylor Hamm > Nick Saban
Some douche on a message board named daddy98 > John Chavis
Aggies 4ever!!!
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DWag215
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:18 pm to Maximus)
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Some douche on a message board named daddy98 > John Chavis
Daddy's insufferable at times. He has this not-so-passive-aggressive way of asserting himself as the preeminent authority of all things recruiting.
Used to have decent opinions. But his lack of rudimentary grammar skills, and his refusal to use paragraphs, make his posts not only annoying, but oftentimes unintelligible.
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VermilionTiger 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:20 pm to DWag215)
Yeah, I got a legit headache after reading that jackasses' posts
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Maximus
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:21 pm to DWag215)
Darrion Johnson's brother sounded pretty jelly of ol Tony too in one of the junction TB SUCKS threads.
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DWag215
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:23 pm to Maximus)
Dude's a hack. He's been pumping his brother for two years. To his credit, some of the hype seems legit. Hell, Ketch just listed him as the #2 player in Texas. 
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tigerfoot 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 5:40 pm to DWag215)
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That's seems off, right? One would think you'd pop in the tape and be blown away--even if your eye is untrained. I don't think my opinion is a rare one. As I already said, his offer list clinches the argument that he's elite.
I would just like someone to articulate why Tony's received so much attention.
Yes it's off. You are wrong.
And he is really good with physical potential to be starting CB for an NFL team in four years.
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Maximus
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:12 pm to DWag215)
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Daddy's insufferable at times. He has this not-so-passive-aggressive way of asserting himself as the preeminent authority of all things recruiting.
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Coaches win games on evaluations and systems. some kids fit systems.
Jermaine Roberts is a smaller off man guy. Tony brown and Ed Paris are press guys all the way and zone. They aren't back pedal flip hips kind of guys, even at camps.
on this lb. I have no issue whatsoever with the offer. The guy's probably very good and fits your system.
LSU almost let Ole Miss have Lamin Barrow who'll be your best lb this next year and drafted in the first 3 rounds next year's NFL Draft.
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Big Lake
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:20 pm to DWag215)
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Big Lake, you've got some knowledge.
Haha I am definitely in the bottom half of the RB in terms of knowledge. Everyone just doesn't want to respond.
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DWag215
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 6:21 pm to Maximus)
Sometimes I think he tries to throw in terms associated with football acumen to disguise that he hasn't the slightest idea what he's saying.
Then again, using "back pedal flip hips kind of guys" in an argument fails to even do that.
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tigerfan4120
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 7:06 pm to DWag215)
Tony Brown's ceiling is as a top 5 NFL draft pick. That's the type of athleticism he has, and every single person who sees him in coverage at camps agrees with that, hence his ranking. I give zero shits about some game film of him playing out of position for a bad program in Texas.
He has way more upside than any DB A&M will take this year.
If HS highlights were the be all end all you'd be hearing about Russel Shep a lot more this week. What an awful, straw man argument against his abilities at the next level.
/end thread, gfy aggies
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Dodd 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/24/13 at 7:30 pm to tigerfan4120)
Being that kids are so young during the early evals, I imagine colleges look at maybe two or three qualities for each position. For a DB its size, speed and playmaking? I think coaches probably think they can teach everything else (footwork, coverage, hips, etc)
I don't think scouting is very hard at the HS level.
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brewhan davey 
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/25/13 at 8:09 am to DWag215)
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I don't see it in Tony's film. And so you know this isn't sour grapes, I don't really see it with Hoza Scott, either.
There are many cases where elite prospects aren't exactly elite players, and vice versa. Performance on the field does not always correspond to multiple D1 college suitors knocking on one's door. There are certain traits that coaches look for in prospects.. things that may not be as apparent from watching a few film clips. Most of the time, coaches are right in their assessments, and other times, they miss it. In Hoza Scott's case, be grateful you landed him. He is a stud (as is Tony Brown).
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GFunk
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/25/13 at 8:36 am to brewhan davey)
LSU is DBU. I'm not using that or tossing it out as a cliche.
But the last 4 years, we've churned out not good, but elite defensive back prospects. In approximately 60 days, it'll be easy to say that:
LSU has produced multiple Top 3 Round draft picks at Safety in the past 4 years.
LSU has produced multiple Top 10 draft picks at Corner in the past 4 years.
LSU has produced over a half dozen All-SEC as recognized by coaches or media in the past 4 years. Literally, that's about 1.5 per year.
LSU lost a DB Coach to the NFL, and their first year DB Coach recruited & developed two Freshman All-SEC & one Freshman All-American, along with several All-SEC & one All-American at DB this year.
LSU has produced a Heisman Finalist as a DB.
All of these prospects included one five-star (PP21), three four-star (Reid, Simon & Loston) & three three-star prospects (Claiborne, Taylor & Mathieu).
At this point, our evaluation, recruiting, development, scheme & production at the position of Defensive Back is above reproach.
Essentially, what this boils down to is this:
LSU can take 2-star prospects and turn them into a #6 pick. We can take a 3-star prospect and turn them into a Heisman Finalist, All-American, Bednarik-Award winner.
If LSU can do that with marginal, under-the-radar-type recruits from in-state, looking at our track record with kids at the DB position of all levels of the stargazing spectrum, what do you think LSU is capable of with Tony Brown?
On potential alone, Brown-in LSU's system-is limitless.
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tigerfan4120
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:15 am to GFunk)
It is also hilarious to watch A&M fans knighting Jermaine Roberts over Tony Brown because if/when LSU offers Roberts will be a Tiger and A&M won't have either guy.
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MOT
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/25/13 at 10:28 am to tigerfan4120)
Chances are pretty good that if Brown committed to A&M all of the things this guy "isn't seeing on film" would magically appear upon further review.
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TxTiger82
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| re: An Actual Discussion About Tony Brown (Posted on 2/25/13 at 11:46 am to DWag215)
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Craig Loston
LOL
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