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New Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic rumors
Posted on 2/23/13 at 5:48 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 5:48 am
I've seen a lot of posters hoping this would happen so here's a little fuel to add to the fire.
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Again, just a rumor, but interesting since I've heard mostly no EU since Disney bought the rights to the franchise.
AICN article
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Knights started life as a video game, written by Mass Effect‘s Drew Karpyshyn. He has more Star Wars experience too, having published a novel, Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. Last spring, he famously left his job with game developer Bioware to concentrate on screenwriting and his proposed fantasy novels, the Children of Fire trilogy.
Again, just a rumor, but interesting since I've heard mostly no EU since Disney bought the rights to the franchise.
AICN article
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:39 am to Murray
I know KOTOR was a huge video game, but could you really base a full action movie off of it (much less a trilogy)? Not too many people know the back story and would be lost trying to watch it..
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:58 am to brmark70816
They have based game/movie adaptations off of less material than KOTOR. Not saying it will be great but it can be done.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:19 am to Puck82
The story line is there. It just needs to be done right.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:51 am to Murray
Star Wars movies need to be original stories and not based on any of that EU crap.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:55 am to Lacour
If people thought Jar Jar was bad then I can't wait to see what those assholes at the end of KoToR end up being 
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:24 am to jmarto1
its the most badass story line of all star wars. imagine you are following this hero the entire time and at the three quarter mark you find out he is actually a bad guy that got amnesia. Pure awesome
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:47 pm to Tiger Ryno
This would be terrible, IMO. The problem with the KOTOR storyline is that it never should have ended after the second one, it should have had a full trilogy to draw Revan's story to a close. The ambiguity surrounding the ending, coupled with the ambiguity surrounding Revan's origins and even what he was doing in the background of KOTOR2 would leave a film (or two) that just had too many holes to be enjoyable. They'd have to expand the storyline to draw it into a close, but, what's that, some idiot writer already did that with a stupid book that I regret ever having read because it was the worst book I've read since probably high school.
And really, that's the entire problem with new Star Wars films. They are really limited by the fact that Star Wars is a franchise with such a massive EU footprint. What you can do with characters is limited by what has already been done over the last 20 years, and you can't overturn what has been endorsed as canonical material. I suppose you could, but not without fallout.
And really, that's the entire problem with new Star Wars films. They are really limited by the fact that Star Wars is a franchise with such a massive EU footprint. What you can do with characters is limited by what has already been done over the last 20 years, and you can't overturn what has been endorsed as canonical material. I suppose you could, but not without fallout.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:49 pm to Matisyeezy
Slow down. They can't even get through their heads that a third KOTOR game is about as close to no brainer as you can get. Instead they try to milk it with an MMO game. I know, I know, game board.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 3:10 pm to Matisyeezy
The good thing is that the EU crap isn't canon and they can make whatever storyline they want for these next movies as long as they follow the other movies. None of the stories in the books, comic books, or games are relevant.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 4:11 pm to Matisyeezy
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you can't overturn what has been endorsed as canonical material.
Yes you can and no it hasn't been endorsed as canon.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 4:26 pm to Froman
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The good thing is that the EU crap isn't canon and they can make whatever storyline they want for these next movies as long as they follow the other movies. None of the stories in the books, comic books, or games are relevant
See, I disagree with this, if only because such a decision would create more problems than it would solve. I don't dispute that the EU material is dubiously canon, but (and this is just my opinion and I obviously can't ground this in anything substantial or statistical) if they write storylines that are explicitly in contradiction with EU canon they risk alienating the consumer base that is people who consume EU merchandise. Such a move has ramifications beyond just seeing or not seeing the films -- it also potentially affects how they consume future EU products.
Realistically, movie-making is a business, and as such it is about the bottom-line and turning a profit. One of the easiest ways of doing that is to spin-off from the source material. Whether it be action figures, video games, movie novelizations, or, in the case of Star Wars, an entire MASSIVE Expanded Universe, these all exist for one reason and one reason only -- dividends. In deciding to create a new trilogy the creators must inevitably ask the question of who their target audience is. They can either create a series that spurns the Expanded Universe and potentially alienates dedicated fans (which in turns impacts merchandise sales and future propagation of storylines and more merchandise sales) or they can craft a trilogy that works within it. In my opinion they can absolutely do the latter and still create a saga that is appealing to the general public, thereby maximizing their gains.
The only real question (to me) is whether they want the expenditure of investing the hours into doing the research that would bring the script in accordance with EU canon.
And in keeping with the OP, how the hell can they craft a film (or films) based upon EXPANDED UNIVERSE MATERIAL and not respect the canon of, you know, the Expanded Universe. To think they could do otherwise is jut absurd, IMO. Again, all just my opinion. I'm okay with people disagreeing.
ETA: Jabarkus, I feel like this addresses your statement as well. But again, I'm open to discussion.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 4:49 pm to Murray
This star wars shite is out of control
Posted on 2/23/13 at 5:45 pm to Murray
HK-47 would make it worth the watch.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 6:02 pm to Lacour
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Star Wars movies need to be original stories and not based on any of that EU crap.
Wow, today marks the first time that I have every agreed with Lacour.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 6:48 pm to Matisyeezy
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They can either create a series that spurns the Expanded Universe and potentially alienates dedicated fans (which in turns impacts merchandise sales and future propagation of storylines and more merchandise sales) or they can craft a trilogy that works within it.
I really think you're overestimating the pull of that hardcore segment of the Star Wars fandom.
I'm not knocking any of the EU, since I haven't read any of it, but to say that they should be worried about a negative impact on merchandise or ticket sales from alienating these fan's is kind of wild.
Again, this is just a total rumor. Even the article mentioned that the only thing that Disney is focused on right now is Ep VII. Other than that, they're just floating idea's about the standalone's.
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Lacour
Where the hell have you been?
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 7:27 pm to Murray
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I really think you're overestimating the pull of that hardcore segment of the Star Wars fandom.
That's totally fair. My thought process, though, is that in my experience every film (and I only remember the prequel trilogy because the original trilogy was before my time) has been accompanied by a surge in action figure releases and similar merchandise because it's easy money for the studio. I don't really run in the hardcore, dedicated Comic Con or Star Wars circles, but it seems, at least to me as an outsider, that they encompass a really vocal subset of the population. In my mind you have two groups that are the principal consumers of that kind of merchandise, fans that collect and kids. It seems a little foolish to alienate one of those groups. That's why I feel they'll try to work within the EU framework.
I'm sure they spend a ****load of money on people to do surveys and analyze this kind of thing, though. I have no statistics, it's just impressions. I'm sure they'll make the "right" decision with the bottom line in mind.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 7:32 pm to Matisyeezy
I read a few EU books (Shadows of the Empire and Splinter of the Mind's Eye). Shadows was incredible but I don't consider it canon. As far as contradictions for fans of the books, just consider those stories an alternate universe. BTW, if the prequels didn't alienate fans from showing up, I hardly doubt not following the EU storyline is going to.
If the movie is coming out in 2015, they don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
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I'm sure they spend a ****load of money on people to do surveys and analyze this kind of thing, though
If the movie is coming out in 2015, they don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:10 pm to JabarkusRussell
there was a revan book that ended the trilogy of kotor and kotor 2, not particularly amazing. it connected to the star wars mmo game.
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