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it will get real tomorrow (LHSAA split meeting)
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:45 pm
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the select school principals will meet at the LHSAA office tomorrow
Archbishop Shaw's principal wants to see the select schools in 5 classifications come playoff time
the principal of the oldest high school in LA traded letters with Holy Cross on the best action to take. he thinks Catholic schools should not accept second-class status to the LHSAA or anyone else and warns it will extend to every sport eventually.
I wonder what the independent schools like Newman, Country Day, and St. Martin's think of all this? I can really see John Curtis being left without an association at the end of all this. Will they laugh at McDonogh, Miller McCoy, Clark, Ben Franklin, or Thomas Jefferson if they show up?
I also wonder who's gonna get the score ran up on them this fall.
the select school principals will meet at the LHSAA office tomorrow
Archbishop Shaw's principal wants to see the select schools in 5 classifications come playoff time
the principal of the oldest high school in LA traded letters with Holy Cross on the best action to take. he thinks Catholic schools should not accept second-class status to the LHSAA or anyone else and warns it will extend to every sport eventually.
I wonder what the independent schools like Newman, Country Day, and St. Martin's think of all this? I can really see John Curtis being left without an association at the end of all this. Will they laugh at McDonogh, Miller McCoy, Clark, Ben Franklin, or Thomas Jefferson if they show up?
I also wonder who's gonna get the score ran up on them this fall.
This post was edited on 2/21/13 at 9:22 am
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:37 pm to chalmetteowl
Separating and joining with East Texas would be awesome!
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:10 am to LaBornNRaised
The meeting is taking place now.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 9:32 am to chalmetteowl
This is going to be good.
There's enough of a core group of private / parochial / charter / magnet / lab schools in South LA that there could easily be an entire separate association without too many problems in the way of logistics.
There's enough of a core group of private / parochial / charter / magnet / lab schools in South LA that there could easily be an entire separate association without too many problems in the way of logistics.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:03 pm to chalmetteowl
"Select" and "non-select" schools are not on the same playing field, and everybody knows that. There's no way a school of 250 kids can legally compete against a school that has over 1500.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:15 pm to geauxruston
Which is why there are classes you dolt.
Select schools declared this unconstitutional today
Select schools declared this unconstitutional today
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:29 pm to lsu31always
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Select schools declared this unconstitutional today
Which, in and of itself, doesn't mean much because public schools have the numbers within the LHSAA.
The signal that sends, though, is that the LHSAA better tread carefully because the private schools may be serious about a split if the LHSAA insists on "separate and unequal" only for the post-season.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:33 pm to teke184
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The signal that sends, though, is that the LHSAA better tread carefully because the private schools may be serious about a split if the LHSAA insists on "separate and unequal" only for the post-season.
The most insane part of the "non-select" movement is that they want 5 champions from their group every year. Madness. If they were to agree to having 5 champs total (3 non-select and 2 select), I assume the select schools might stomach that.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:34 pm to Jwho77
Privates should tell LHSAA to frick themselves and split off. LHSAA would change its tune real fricking quick.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:41 pm to udtiger
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Privates should tell LHSAA to frick themselves and split off. LHSAA would change its tune real fricking quick.
Which would be my tactic as well, but some may be hesitant to do that.
This is effectively going to come down to a north-south split, as the vast majority of "select" schools are in south LA due to the systemic problems within the public schools here. There's a shite-ton of private, parochial, charter, lab, magnet, etc., in BR and NOLA alone, let alone Hammond, Laffy, Lake Charles, etc.
This post was edited on 2/21/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:44 pm to geauxruston
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"Select" and "non-select" schools are not on the same playing field, and everybody knows that. There's no way a school of 250 kids can legally compete against a school that has over 1500.
You serious, Clark?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:49 pm to chalmetteowl
An article from todays Advocate regarding the meeting.
If there are really only 80 or so select schools, it seems kind of insane to break them up into 5 classes. That's like 16 schools per class.
I don't have extremely strong feelings one way or the other about the split. But I think it would be silly for the LHSAA to cave to schools threatening to take their ball and go home after a majority had voted. That would be letting the minority rule and encouraging similar behavior in the future for any group that can't get it's way through a vote of the majority.
If there are really only 80 or so select schools, it seems kind of insane to break them up into 5 classes. That's like 16 schools per class.
I don't have extremely strong feelings one way or the other about the split. But I think it would be silly for the LHSAA to cave to schools threatening to take their ball and go home after a majority had voted. That would be letting the minority rule and encouraging similar behavior in the future for any group that can't get it's way through a vote of the majority.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:54 pm to teke184
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LHSAA better tread carefully because the private schools may be serious about a split if the LHSAA insists on "separate and unequal" only for the post-season.
I wish the privates would do this and then the public schools can go whining to the state legislature to fill their budget shortfalls when they're not splitting the gate with the private schools.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:58 pm to Methuselah
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But I think it would be silly for the LHSAA to cave to schools threatening to take their ball and go home after a majority had voted.
The vote was a sham. Why were class B and C schools voting on what happens in the football playoffs when they don't even have football teams?
And why wasn't it a roll call vote?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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The vote was a sham. Why were class B and C schools voting on what happens in the football playoffs when they don't even have football teams?
Because a lot of public schools threatened the B and C schools with the elimination of those classes if they didn't go along with this.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:01 pm to teke184
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Because a lot of public schools threatened the B and C schools with the elimination of those classes if they didn't go along with this.
They shouldn't have been a target for threats because they shouldn't be voting on the issue in the first place.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:02 pm to ProjectP2294
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The vote was a sham. Why were class B and C schools voting on what happens in the football playoffs when they don't even have football teams? And why wasn't it a roll call vote?
If the vote was done against the rules then they should lodge the proper objections and I'm sure they will. But I still think it would be the worst kind of weakness for more than 3/4 of the schools to cave to less than 1/4 of the schools because they threaten to leave. If it's in their best interet to leave the LHSAA I'm sure they will. If it's in their best interest to stay, I'm sure they'll stay.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:09 pm to Methuselah
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But I still think it would be the worst kind of weakness for more than 3/4 of the schools to cave to less than 1/4 of the schools because they threaten to leave.
That 1/4 of the schools brings in an inordinate amount of the gate money for the LHSAA.
Expecting them to play non-select schools in district and then separating them for the playoffs is horseshite.
There's no reason why 5A public schools in New Orleans should be able to get huge gates from playing the entire Catholic League and then be able to avoid them completely in the playoffs.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:28 pm to lsu31always
Plus all boys schools like Catholic (BR) and Jesuit have a huge advantage over schools like Ruston and Ouachita. When you have over 2,000 all boys at your school, how can we complete with that?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:31 pm to geauxruston
I thought that single-sex schools got an adjustment in their enrollment numbers for classification purposes.
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