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Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:36 pm to whodatfan
Our best Thumper! What next Levon Bell? Hope its a good tender!
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:37 pm to whodatfan
I should have said when healthy. But when healthy Ivory is our best running back IMO
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:59 pm to Melvin
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I should have said when healthy. But when healthy Ivory is our best running back IMO
Pierre Thomas is much better than Ivory
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:08 pm to L.A.
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What would Ivory be worth in a trade? I'm talking about a draft pick. Which round? Anybody?
IMO 2 late round picks, maybe one in each in the next 2 drafts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:09 pm to LSUZombie
Pierre Thomas is a really good all around back. Chris Ivory is one of the best pure runners in football, and a great blend of power and speed. Dude is a beast and will have a big time rushing season once he gets to another team that Thomas isn't really capable of having IMO.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:10 pm to LSUZombie
quote:On screen passes sure and probably better all around with pass protection and catching out of the back field but when just handed the ball I'll take Ivory
Pierre Thomas is much better than Ivory
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:16 pm to LSUZombie
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Pierre Thomas is much better than Ivory
Agreed. The trouble with Ivory is that he is such a one trick pony. Great runner but everyone knows he's either gonna be carrying when he's in or else nothing.
And you can't believe with an offensive mind like Payton's they haven't wanted to get him involved in the passing game.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:17 pm to monroesaintsfan
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he's either gonna be carrying when he's in or else nothing.
wanted to be sarcastic here but i got what you were saying. phrase better damn it.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:19 pm to BlacknGold
Yet that pony outperformed many of the other donkeys
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:22 pm to monroesaintsfan
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Agreed. The trouble with Ivory is that he is such a one trick pony. Great runner but everyone knows he's either gonna be carrying when he's in or else nothing.
And you can't believe with an offensive mind like Payton's they haven't wanted to get him involved in the passing game
You said it yourself, it's not his fault they are so predictable with him. That's on the person calling plays. You can say the exact same thing about how they use Ingram. I have no problem with a guy being a one trick pony if he is as good as Ivory at that one trick. And even though teams know what's coming, they still can't stop him. The guy is as good at breaking out of hits in the backfield as anyone.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:31 pm to Chad504boy
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Yet that pony outperformed many of the other donkeys
As far as a pure runner, yes. But even that doesn't matter if you spend more time in the training room than on the field.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:36 pm to G Love
I think Saints could get at least a 3rd round pick for Ivory
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:38 pm to monroesaintsfan
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As far as a pure runner, yes
This is all we are saying.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:41 pm to landrywasbeast30
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You said it yourself, it's not his fault they are so predictable with him.
But is it the play caller's fault they have to be predictable with him. Could just be that he can't be relied on in the passing game, either catching or blocking.
Payton is arguably the most innovative passing game coach out there, yet Ivory has never been a part of it. Wonder why?
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:46 pm to landrywasbeast30
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This is all we are saying
I definitely agree he's a fantastic pure runner...when healthy.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:53 pm to BlacknGold
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he's either gonna be carrying when he's in or else nothing.
wanted to be sarcastic here but i got what you were saying. phrase better damn it.
Be sarcastic then. It couldn't make any less sense.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:50 pm to monroesaintsfan
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But is it the play caller's fault they have to be predictable with him. Could just be that he can't be relied on in the passing game, either catching or blocking.
Payton is arguably the most innovative passing game coach out there, yet Ivory has never been a part of it. Wonder why?
This could all be true, but Ingram was a great receiver out of the backfield coming out of college, and they do the same thing with him that they do with Ivory. Everyone knew what was coming with Ingram in the game.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:02 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Everyone knew what was coming with Ingram in the game.
Preach brotha preach
Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:16 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Everyone knew what was coming with Ingram in the game.
That is a point. I've often wondered why Ingram isn't used more in pass routes myself. There's obviously something going on we as fans don't see. After all, it's not like Payton is shy about throwing to the running back.
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