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Wasn't it a finding nemo rip off?



Yep. The all-time low in Dreamworks. It had Will Smith, Renee Zellweger, Robert Deniro, Angelina Jolie, and Martin Scorsese. Great idea to get someone to voice act who has never voice acted nor really acted once in his life aside from a cameo. I just don't think the people behind this film had a fricking clue what they were doing, had never done animation once before, and were simply riding the coat tales of Finding Nemo. You don't hire monotone actors to voice act. Its just nuts.






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1. Lion King (a top 5 favorite all time movie for me)
2. Aladdin
3. Beauty and the Beast
4. Little Mermaid

I could maybe swap LM and B&tB. Those are tough to rank because all of them are so good.

As for LM, I have to disagree with OML on some of his rant. I agree that Ariel doesn't learn much (although I'm sure she learned not to make deals with evil people), but the point is that she wants to find true love (similar to most Disney movies, especially "princess" movies), and she's willing to give up something important (her beautiful singing voice) for the chance to make it happen. IMO, saying that she just sees a "hunk of man meat" (which made me big time btw) is selling it short. Sure, she was naive, but that's kinda the point. And the thing that led to her being smitten with Eric is her curiosity of all things human.

Also, Gaston is especially good at expectorating. Just FYI.






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Aladdin is the best





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OMLandshark
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IMO, saying that she just sees a "hunk of man meat" (which made me big time btw) is selling it short. Sure, she was naive, but that's kinda the point. And the thing that led to her being smitten with Eric is her curiosity of all things human.


But, as I said, that prince could have easily been as bad as Gaston in that movie for all we know. I actually think Ariel would have been the perfect person for Gaston actually, as in she doesn't talk or have the ability to question him. She can just be a baby maker for him and a basic indentured servant.






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Lion King was boss

Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
Little Mermaid






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Baloo
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I really don't think so at all, especially since it is wrongfully credited as starting the Disney Renaissance (I'd give "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and "The Great Mouse Detective" that honor really).

And you'd be wrong.

The Little Mermaid was an event when it came out, and it really did restore the Disney brand. I like the Great Mouse Detective, and it kept the lights on at Disney, but the quality of animation is much lower and as much as I hate to rate films on how much they grossed, it is illustrative in this case: $40 million to over $200 million. The Great Mouse Detective was even outperformed both commercially and critically by An American Tail (made my Disney animation refugees).

Disney was no longer THE brand for quality feature length animation. I'll give some credit to Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, which is sort of a proto-Renaissance film, much like Iggy Pop is proto-punk, foresaging what was to come.

It's also important to see how Disney, a studio obsessed with its own history and mythology, has treated those pre-Renaissance films. The Great Mouse Detective is largely ignore (as is Oliver and company and Black Cauldron, the other two films from this era). Roger Rabbit is at least in the photo, though he's be cast to the side. Ariel, OTOH, is a core character and the foundation of the "princess" brand along with Belle and Jasmine, other Renaissance era heroines (along with the classics Snow White and Sleeping Beauty).

There is simply no reading of history in which The Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company, the two films before the Little Mermaid, can be described as the first Renaissance era films. Maybe Roger Rabbit, but that's more of them easing us in to that era of artistic ambition with live action.

Oh, my rankings.

Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Little Mermaid
Aladdin

Honestly, Little Mermaid is more "important" than Beauty and the Beast, but I really want my daughter to emulate Belle, among all of the disney princesses. Bonus points for the best heroine.

ETA: The Black Cauldron is really underrated. But it is considered the low point of Disney's fortunes. So yeah, the Great Mouse Detective is up from the absolute nadir. Though honestly, Cauldron is at least ambitious, Mouse Detective strives for mediocrity and achieves it.



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Nah. She wasn't an idiot. You're reading WAY too into that IMO. And Ariel could talk...she just had to give up that in order to pursue the person she wanted (who was a good-hearted dude, mind you). Gaston is an a-hole, and Ariel isn't on the same level as the idiot chicks fawning over him for being especially good at expectorating.





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1.Aladdin
2.The Lion King
3.Beauty and the Beast
4.The Little Mermaid






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alajones
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what a great stretch for Disney
IMO, Hercules and Mulan were just as good. Disney had a heck of a 10-11 year run.






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CocomoLSU
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Baloo

Agree with most of that.

The doc "Waking Sleeping Beauty" talks a lot about Disney Animation during that time, and how TLM, Aladdin, etc. brought it from the brinks of closure to the forefront of Hollywood, so to speak.

Really awesome doc.






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Beauty and the Beast
The Lion King
Aladdin
The Little Mermaid






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Baloo
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Need to see that. Also, this is an era in which they opened up a TV animation studio as well, and created the Disney Afternoon. To give credit, that is one of the best syndication studios for animation ever: DuckTales and TailSpin still hold up today. OK, Gummi Bears sort of sucked.

Then came Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, and Disney went back to films.






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1. Beauty and the Beast
2. The Lion King
3. Little Mermaid
4. Aladdin

Honestly, there's not much separation for me with them because I really do enjoy them all.






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ETA: what a great stretch for Disney. Aside from sleeping Beauty, Snow White and Pinocchio these are probably their 4 best animated films


False.

Hunchback of Notre Dame is criminally underrated (And I know, the gargoyles, but ignore them), and is very much a classic movie in all respects. It has:

1. The Best Animation (with yes slight computer effects)
2. An underrated soundtrack - The best opening song of all time, and the Best Villain track of any Disney Film
3. A better and more well-rounded story (even though it does not follow the book, but none of these do)
4. A more mature ending

It's the best of the modern hand drawn films overall. And no one realizes it.

But to rate these 4:

1. Beauty and the Beast
2. Lion King
3. Aladdin/Little Mermaid



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alajones
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The best opening song of all time, and the Best Villain track of any Disney Film
These are debateable. I would say "Poor Unfortunate Souls" for best villain track. But I agree with you about how underrated Hunchback is. I feel the same way about Hercules and Mulan.

There are so many great opening songs in Disney movies.

Alan Menken spoke at a children's Theater workshop as was attending last month. He was awesome. At one point he was justt free styling on the piano.



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No love for The Fox and the Hound?





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There are so many great opening songs in Disney movies.


"Belles of Notre Dame," is, at leas IMO, one of the better openings of any film. Just a brilliant way to open. It's epic, cinematic, meaningful, evil, hopeful, funny and just all works. I would say, outside of your classic Sleeping Beauty Dragon Fight, and Snow White Chase, it's one of the better scenes of Any Disney Film.

I'll admit, it gives me chills.






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Lion King
Aladdin
Beauty and the Beast
Little Mermaid






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Baloo
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I love the villain in Hunchback. His motivations actually make sense. And that opening sequence is pretty great. I love the movie, too. Really, my problems are the leads, not the gargoyles.





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My personal rankings would be:

1. The Lion King
2. Aladdin
3. Beauty and the Beast
4. The Little Mermaid


And ALL 4 are pretty damn close to each other.






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