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Conservives ended the draft.


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RebelExpress38
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Rand Paul would go down as one of the best presidents in history. Can you imagine what the markets would do when he follows through and balances the budget, and starts eating away at the debt?


Rand Paul 2016






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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and discrimination will be rampant and encouraged. Totally put of touch with Urban America and will not a vote in the Northeast or any city.





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and discrimination will be rampant and encouraged.



yes because the only reason businesses serve everyone today is because the law says so.






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Rand is a libertarian at heart, but learned quickly on the campaign trail that being a pure libertarian can get you in trouble. I believe he has a practical streak in him that would make him a good candidate. Romney and the neocons ideology on foreign affairs and military intervention is not rooted in true conservatism. Paul needs to more vocal on foreign aide to countries that are not US allies.





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Blue Velvet
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Rand is a libertarian
Stop repeating this nonsense. You're embarrassing yourself.






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blowmeauburn
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Sign me up. I'm officially on the rand Paul band wagon





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Stop repeating this nonsense. You're embarrassing yourself.


It hurts your feelings that he is not pure






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Blue Velvet
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Doesn't hurt my feelings as he is not a libertarian and really not even a conservative. The man has little to no respect for the Constitution nor limited government. I just don't understand why you're encouraging the circlejerk of neocons that visit this board to start supporting a guy that isn't worth supporting nor has any chance. I guess I didn't expect you to sink as low as the others; you're usually a voice of reason.





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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Blue Velvet
Your act is getting old. Nirvana is not for this world. Whatever your idealistic worldview is, it cannot be brought about in this world.

The fact that you can't grasp this is startling. The point of politics/voting, is to bring about the world that is closest to resembling whatever your ideal world is, that is still realistic.







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As I've commented before, the day all senators are no more statist than Rand Paul will be a great day. When that happens, then we can engage in this banal libertarian hair-splitting.

In short, you have an unhinged obsession with destroying the most libertarian senator we have (even though I understand he doesn't live up to your standard of libertarianism). And although you seem to see it as your duty to purge the liberty movement of the unholy Rand Pauls of the world, you do so to the liberty movement's detriment. Your efforts are counterproductive and only serve to fracture the few friends of liberty that actually exist.






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Blue Velvet
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I understand you liberals aren't big on the Constitution but there are some ignorant gumps that visit this board that actually do want limited government and I just think it's low of you to try to convince them that Rand, Romney, Rubio, etc. are in favor of limited government just to gain votes. Hash out the facts and let them decide for themselves.

Every time you post this personal nonsense aimed at me it only shows that you've either set the bar terribly low or that you have gone off the deep end towards fascism (I'm sure you're there but still have hope for Interception). I'll bet you can make a compelling argument of how Elizabeth Warren is a conservative libertarian too. If your idealist worldview is to convince anyone that you care about limited government while supporting Rand/Rubio/Romney then your Nirvana is not of this world. If you are actually dumb enough to think Rand/Rubio/Romney would bring about smaller government or any real change then you should have yourself committed.



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Blue Velvet
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the most libertarian senator we have
The one who doesn't even support the 1st amendment? Who voted for sanctions with Iran? Who said "An attack on Israel is an attack on the united states."? The guy who endorsed Romney?


"They thought all along that they could call me a libertarian and hang that label around my neck like an albatross, but I'm not a libertarian," - Rand Paul

Another spineless GOP deal maker winning the heart and minds

ETA: If you wanted to pander to libertarians you could at least show support for Justin Amash from time to time on here, but I'm sure you differ on quite a few views. Hence, the closest to libertarianism you can stomach is Rand, another Romney-supporting hack who voted for sanctions.



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Go look at his record then, go look at his $500 billion cutting budget, his filibuster of the NDAA and PATRIOT ACT, his anti-TSA bills, his calls for cuts to military spending, please go and look at the whole record.

Question, if Ron Paul supports Rand in 2016 then was Ron Paul full of shite this entire time? You guys won't get a pure Libertarian, but you kill the advancement of liberty by trying to tear Rand down. You have to win elections to influence policy. Rand has to be a politican because he knows he can't win with just libertarians.






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The guy who endorsed Romney?


The GOP would rake Rand over the coals if he didn't. He didn't exactly enthusiastically endorse Romney. Rand will need money and various groups outside the libertarian wing to win in 2016. It's politics, look at the big picture here.






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Blue Velvet
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Go look at his record then, go look at his $500 billion cutting budget, his filibuster of the NDAA and PATRIOT ACT, his anti-TSA bills, his calls for cuts to military spending, please go and look at the whole record.
I have and he's relatively better than the fascists y'all usually support. That doesn't make him a constitutionalist nor libertarian as he's also supports some extremely awful shite as well.
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Question, if Ron Paul supports Rand in 2016 then was Ron Paul full of shite this entire time?
Why would I care if Ron supports his son? He probably will to take the high road though his son took the low and supported Romney. Ron's a nice guy.
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but you kill the advancement of liberty by trying to tear Rand down
Rand does not represent advancement of liberty. Have you seen his views on speech, gays, Israel, etc. He's slightly more conservative on fiscal matters than the rest of the GOP who aren't worth a bucket of dirt between them. :slowclap:
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Rand has to be a politican because he knows he can't win with just libertarians.
Is this to point out that he's lying like a politician when he says he's not a libertarian or that he's another typical D.C.'er without respect for the Constitution? What's your angle with this last sentence?






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Blue Velvet
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It's politics, look at the big picture here.
I am. It's why I don't support a guy without principles towards liberty or respect for the Constitution.
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The GOP would rake Rand over the coals if he didn't.
Well of course. He's their newest puppet.






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HailHailtoMichigan!
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fascists

You have no clue what fascism is, if you think any American politician is one.






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Blue Velvet
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Hopefully you'll eventually get to history, econ, and some other worthwhile classes before you reach 12th grade.





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Blue Velvet


Liberty is not a small tent. Everyone uses liberty in a different way. Everyone has a different definition of what constitutes a "libertarian". Ron Paul's pro-life views may disqualify him from someone's definition.

The point here is that instead of isolating the liberty movement, understand that many different people will have many different strategies. Allow them to coexist. If Rand starts voting to take away your liberties, then rail against him. But give me a break - you're going to dismiss him because he doesn't pass your purity test? What makes you think anyone else will?

To win in 2016 Rand needs to appeal to your average dumb Iowa Republican, you know the ones who supported Bush. This is what guides his political calculations.

ETA: Iran was an issue Ron Paul lost a lot of ground. Rand won't make the same mistake.

Good night




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