| Posted by | Message |
shutterspeed 
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:35 pm to REG861)
quote:
Ebert was a shitty critic from a writing standpoint, too.
What are you talking about? Ebert is a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer.
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:37 pm to SlowFlowPro)
As much of a pussy and a grinch as Siskel was, Leonard Maltin was the biggest pussy of all. See if you can find his review of Saturn 3, which is hilarious.
"Filled with icky special effects." 
|
| Back to top | |
Kafka 
New Orleans Saints Fan
too wrong; didn't lead
Member since Jul 2007
58960 posts
 Online
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:38 pm to shutterspeed)
quote:
quote:
Ebert was a shitty critic from a writing standpoint, too.
What are you talking about? Ebert is a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer
Ebert wasn't that great a reviewer -- I hesitate to cal him a critic -- but he was approximately 2,786 times better than Siskel
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to Kafka)
quote:
Ebert wasn't that great a reviewer -- I hesitate to cal him a critic -- but he was approximately 2,786 times better than Siskel
Whaa? The vast majority of film reviewers today owe their career to Ebert.
|
| Back to top | |
lsufan112001 
Southeastern LA Fan
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
5078 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to Kafka)
Ebert is a liberal, being that he is married to a black woman, he praises every black made movie.
it's just someone else's opinion anyway, so who cares all in all....
|
| Back to top | |
TigerMyth36 
LSU Fan
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
24278 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:40 pm to Kafka)
It wasn't just the review. Back then, it was about the only way to see trailers. They showed upcoming review trailers at the end and they showed clips during the show. That was half the reason for watching.
|
| Back to top | |
SlowFlowPro 
Stanford Fan
Equality is a circle, not a =
Member since Jan 2004
263486 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 6:44 pm to Lsupimp)
quote:
And when he dabbles in politics it really gets sordid.
i had to stop following him on twitter b/c he got way too annoying about politics
|
| Back to top | |
Kafka
New Orleans Saints Fan
too wrong; didn't lead
Member since Jul 2007
58960 posts
Online
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:01 pm to shutterspeed)
quote:
The vast majority of film reviewers today owe their career to Ebert
If that's true it doesn't say much for the state of film reviewing
Andrew Sarris and Pauline Kael were far more influential than Ebert
|
| Back to top | |
TigerMyth36
LSU Fan
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
24278 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:04 pm to Kafka)
quote:
If that's true it doesn't say much for the state of film reviewing
If true, maybe we should go back in time and stop Ebert. He helped create Armond White!!!
|
| Back to top | |
The Eric
LSU Fan
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2008
11869 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:05 pm to SlowFlowPro)
What a crock. The first time you see the dinos in J-Park I giggle like a school girl. It's very very majestic.
It's in my desert island 5
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:09 pm to Kafka)
quote:
Andrew Sarris and Pauline Kael were far more influential than Ebert
Sarris was a film critic and theorist.
Ebert has cited Kael as his biggest influence, but Ebert put contemporary pop film reviewing on the map. Saying Kael was more influential than Ebert would be like saying Shakespeare's literature teacher was more influential. Name one film reviewer, post-1970s, who has been more influential.
|
| Back to top | |
Hoodoo Man
LSU Fan
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
8936 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:14 pm to shutterspeed)
Honestly, Richard Roeper is a much better critic to me.
He's not so much of an elitist frickhead.
|
| Back to top | |
Kafka
New Orleans Saints Fan
too wrong; didn't lead
Member since Jul 2007
58960 posts
Online
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:19 pm to shutterspeed)
Ebert's TV success was influential in a way -- thought not in a good way.
Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris. He almost single-handedly popularized the auteur theory here. In the years since it has spread like kudzu on a Mississippi hillside, to the point that it not only dominates the academy and the media but even much casual fan discussion (Tarantino would be just another hustler without it).
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:22 pm to Hoodoo Man)
quote:
He's not so much of an elitist frickhead.
Howso? I'll grant you his Affirmative Action review philosophy.
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:24 pm to Kafka)
quote:
Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris. He almost single-handedly popularized the auteur theory here.
Apples and oranges. Sarris was a film theorist, not a popular film reviewer. No one reads Sarris for entertainment value.
|
| Back to top | |
Kafka
New Orleans Saints Fan
too wrong; didn't lead
Member since Jul 2007
58960 posts
Online
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:28 pm to shutterspeed)
quote:
No one reads Sarris for entertainment value
Well I did
Ebert was not very interesting journalism and is already receding form memory, essentially an updated version of Bosley Crowther, the very influential and widely read NY Times reviewer of the '40s and '50s that no one gives a shite about today.
|
| Back to top | |
Hoodoo Man
LSU Fan
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
8936 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:28 pm to shutterspeed)
It's just an opinion.
He seems more in touch with the average film-goer to me.
|
| Back to top | |
DanglingFury 
VCU Fan
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
16011 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:29 pm to Kafka)
quote:
Actually the most influential film critic in American history, and it's not close, was Andrew Sarris
Ok, dude.
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:31 pm to Kafka)
quote:
that no one gives a shite about today.
Well, just as "no one gives a shite about Ebert," yet they mimic his style, I can assure you even less give a shite about Sarris, though they may follow the career of certain directors.
|
| Back to top | |
shutterspeed
Southern Miss Fan
So. Miss. by way of Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
26564 posts
| re: Watching old Siskel & Ebert Reviews (Posted on 2/17/13 at 7:33 pm to Hoodoo Man)
quote:
He seems more in touch with the average film-goer to me.
Dude is almost 20 years younger than Ebert. Roeper is a sleazebag--the Bill Maher of film reviewers. Not a bad thing, I guess, once you accept that he's in movies more for the pussy than his film legacy.
This post was edited on 2/17 at 7:35 pm
|
| Back to top | |
