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LSUwag
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?

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do these numbers foreshadow a downturn in the economy?


The economy has been flat for four years. Take away all the stimulus spending and we would still be in a total recession. We have done nothing to build economic growth. We've actually done the exact opposite to build growth. We have taxed and regulated ourselves to death. Now that reality has set in that we can't afford to do this forever, we are in big trouble.



CajunAngele
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Could be

But then again retailers like wal mart are going to be fighting for market space with places like Amazon now


Craigslist is the indicator. You can buy 32-50 inch plasma TV's dirt cheap, screw walmart. As well as the old arse fat TV's are going for $20.
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Taxing Authority
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
Notice in several stores this week, inventories are LOW. Mostly empty shelves. Noted the same thing in Spring 08. Purely anecdotal, but enough that it stands out.


Lsut81
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Notice in several stores this week, inventories are LOW. Mostly empty shelves. Noted the same thing in Spring 08. Purely anecdotal, but enough that it stands out.


Like I said, I'm sure sales are down everywhere
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conservativewifeymom
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
Ummmm, BO?!?!?!


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LittlebyLittle
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
9.00/hr. min. wage proposed by obama coming down the pipeline...? greedy wal-mart.....shame on them-time to share the wealth!


Champagne
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
The only way that the US electorate will learn the lesson is for Democrat policies to be fully implemented without opposition. We need a solid decade AT LEAST of complete Democrat Party domination.

The lesson must be learned the hard way.


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ThaBigFella
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
dont feel bad for walmart....they get plenty of government assistance too....one of the best documentaries Ive ever seen

LINK


JG77056
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
There was also a cold front across most of this country the first week of this month and a lot of people either can't or don't like leaving their house in those conditions.


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JG77056
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
There was also a cold front across most of this country the first week of this month and a lot of people either can't or don't like leaving their house in those conditions.


LSUwag
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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There was also a cold front across most of this country the first week of this month and a lot of people either can't or don't like leaving their house in those conditions.



You're kidding, right?

The GDP fell last quarter by .1% The definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP. We are already half way there.


La Place Mike
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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But then again retailers like wal mart are going to be fighting for market space with places like Amazon now



Wal Mart shoppers do not shop on Amazon.


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Powerman
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Push for online sales taxes pick up steam in Congress


Amazon already charges sales tax


MFn GIMP
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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dont feel bad for walmart....they get plenty of government assistance too....one of the best documentaries Ive ever seen

I knew exactly what propaganda piece you were talking about before I even clicked on the link. I feel sorry for you that you think The High Cost of Low Prices is one of the best documentaries you've seen.


wmr
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
My personal belief is that it is due to the payroll tax increase.

Everybody is taking home less than they were in 2012. Its not a whole lot, but its a chunk out of discretionary spending. I know I've been more conscious of spending until I get my budget adjusted.


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Ace Midnight
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Why would Amazon all of a sudden be a difference maker this month and not the previous months? Sure, there is a trend to online retailers, but it wouldn't constitute a spike for this month.


This is good analysis. What happened over the past couple of paychecks that might have caused spending habits to change?

1. Gas prices have been trickling up.

2. 2-year payroll tax holiday expired

3. Witholding adjustments for the new tax year

4. Increased health insurance premiums

Now - out of those 4, the only one that's unique to 2013 is #2. Draw whatever inferences you like.


Lsut81
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Now - out of those 4, the only one that's unique to 2013 is #2. Draw whatever inferences you like.


That is the obvious cause, along with higher gas prices....

But my question is, do you think this is smoke where their may be fire? Are we beginning to truly tilt towards a double dip

What I'm really asking, as someone who is not anywhere near an economist, is does this have any affect/indication on the GDP?


Ace Midnight
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Are we beginning to truly tilt towards a double dip


Do you really see a lot of growth in this quarter?

Ironically, if the first quarter of 2013 is, in any way, positive, it will be based on unprecedented firearms and ammunition sales.


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Helo
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Orlando
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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Why would Amazon all of a sudden be a difference maker this month and not the previous months? Sure, there is a trend to online retailers, but it wouldn't constitute a spike for this month.



This is good analysis. What happened over the past couple of paychecks that might have caused spending habits to change?

1. Gas prices have been trickling up.

2. 2-year payroll tax holiday expired

3. Witholding adjustments for the new tax year

4. Increased health insurance premiums




All of this.
Oh and +1 to whomever said that Amazon shoppers don't shop at Walmart.


NHTIGER
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re: Walmart Sales Indication of Coming Problems?
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The GDP fell last quarter by .1% The definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP. We are already half way there.




We'll have a much more accurate number on the the 4th Quarter GDP in 13 days, when the number gets revised on Feb. 28th. The 0.1% negative could easily turn positive, and even if not, could turn positive when the next revision comes on March 28th. With two revisions to be announced for the 4th quarter before the 1Q 2013 Advanced release, there is almost no chance 4Q will be in negative territory on April 26th, thus averting any possibility of headlines screaming that there's a "new" recession. The 0.1% downtick will be a distant memory by the afternoon of March 28th, if not on Feb. 28th.

It's just a game to the BEA people.


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