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re: Top 5 screw jobs in LSU history
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:49 am to dukke v
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:49 am to dukke v
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Yup LSU screwed ITSELF with HORRIBLE play calling.
This is also true. My friends and I still debate this point. With that said, it was still a cheatathon. The pass to Lefell in the corner of the endzone before half was a good call. It was an absolute mugging. The pass to Early where they picked up the flag for interference was a good play.
I will simply say this...for the amount of money SEC football generates, the refs performance that day was not worthy of this great conference. Furthermore, you have to assume the best SEC ref crew was given this game because both teams were highly ranked.
I'll go to the grave saying this was ultimately a screw job.
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:49 am to lsufball19
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yeah that's not accurate. 2005 we got beat, at home, by Rice in the regionals. 2006 we went 1-2 in the SECT, State didn't even make the SECT, yet State made the NCAAT and we didn't, and yes their AD was on the selection committee. 2006 was complete and utter bullshite; however, it got Smoke out of town so I'm thankful for that. 2007 was Mainieri's first year and we were awful. You know the rest
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:53 am to LSU92
I'll give yall another one. The 2004 Auburn game was remembered for the BS penality on the game winning extra point. However, most people forget that Jesse Daniels had an interception to end the final drive. The ref ruled him out of bounds, but the replay easily showed it was an int. LSU did not even get a review.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:55 am to biglego
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2011 was a year where no team deserved to play LSU at the end and logically LSU should have been named NC after the UGA win. Thats not how the BCS works of course and there had to be another game, but logically speaking there shouldn't have been another game.
3 major BCS championship game controversies could have been avoided if they had implemented one simple (and obvious) rule: You can't play in the BCS championship game if you don't win your conference. 2001 Nebraska, 2003 Oklahoma and 2011 Alabama had no business playing in their respective title games. Nebraska and Alabama didn't even win their respective divisions.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:01 am to LSU92
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The 2004 Auburn game
IMO This game was lost after the 1st drive when Randall Marched LSU down the field and Saban then put Russell in and all the ryhthum was gone.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:09 am to dukke v
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IMO This game was lost after the 1st drive when Randall Marched LSU down the field and Saban then put Russell in and all the ryhthum was gone.
That was the best Randall drive of his career. I don't think Saban planned on Randall looking so damn good on that drive. That was one physical game.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:15 am to bearhc
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1969, when the Tigers had a gentlemen's agreement to play Texas in the Cotton Bowl for what would have been the national championship. When Notre Dame broke its bowl ban, Texas jumped at the chance to avoid what was Cholly Mac's best team. We lost to Archie 26-23 for our only loss. By the way, Ole Miss beat Arkansas (Arkansas played Texas for #1 at the end of the regular season and should have won) handily in the Sugar Bowl. The Longhorns were strictly a running team and would have been stopped cold by the great LSU defense.
If there were older posters on this board, this situation would rival 2011 BCS BS.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:19 am to LSU92
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Florida 2006. He holding call on Herm Johnson turned that game around. Unfortunately, LSU played so poorly that day it may not have mattered.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:20 am to noonan
The top one is as obvious as a bloody wart on Miss America's nose:
Several BCS Human Poll Voters including coaches, former players...........and some who HAD NO GOOD REASON for having a right to vote because they had no qualifications WHATSOEVER........ 'seemed' to have formed some sort of faction after all the Conference Championship Games to vote on who should play LSU for the 2011 BCS Title.
This faction AAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL voted Oklahoma State FIFTH OR SIXTH. FIFTH. OR. SIXTH.
The same OSU team that was told all they had to do was beat Oklahoma and it should give them enough #2 votes to stay ahead of Alabama.
Some of these voters voted HOUSTON ahead of OSU.
I could see 2nd or 3rd, but FIFTH OR SIXTH ????
But wait. Nick Saban was allowed to be in the broadcast booth during the SECCG and was allowed to subtley plead his case that Alabama should get a do-over.
Why was Mike Gundy not afforded the same opportunity ?????????
And I wonder what made Little Nicky vote Oklahoma State FOURTH ????????????? Hmmmmmmm....
Why even """"""""""""""P L A Y"""""""""""""
conference championship games then ???????????
Well, Oklahoma St annihilated Oklahoma by FIVE TOUCHDOWNS to win the Big 12 Title.
Also, their strength of schedule RAN CIRCLES around Alabama's. OSU played many more bowl teams, ranked teams, and winning teams than Alabama.
Wasn't that (SOS) also supposed to be part of the BCS calculations ??????????????????
All the rest of the voters voted OSU 2nd or 3rd (except Little Nicky and this strangely biased faction).
There is no doubt in my aorta, my cerebral cortex, or my spleen - that OSU got shafted becaues of the grossly unfair bias to Saban and the "name" Alabama.
A second place division team, with a high school schedule, who lost at HOME, gets into the NATIONAL championship game ????
But a Conference Champion who destroyed their second place conference runnerup, and had a profoundly stronger schedule, gets rewarded by getting voted FIFTH OR SIXTH, by a mysterious, incredibly biased, UNQUALIFIED group of no-names ????
THAT'S who decided who plays for the national championship.
Fornicate those MulliGumpNeckTeabagCharminDetergentOverallsWearingSkoalSpitting'69EconolineDrivingAutoPartsCheckers
PlayingInbredTrailerHumpingGoldenFlakeCrumbsOn
TheirMouthPieces of UnbornMucasMembraneRegurgitatedPossumAfterbirthRotGutSkunkRectum Diarrhea.
Several BCS Human Poll Voters including coaches, former players...........and some who HAD NO GOOD REASON for having a right to vote because they had no qualifications WHATSOEVER........ 'seemed' to have formed some sort of faction after all the Conference Championship Games to vote on who should play LSU for the 2011 BCS Title.
This faction AAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL voted Oklahoma State FIFTH OR SIXTH. FIFTH. OR. SIXTH.
The same OSU team that was told all they had to do was beat Oklahoma and it should give them enough #2 votes to stay ahead of Alabama.
Some of these voters voted HOUSTON ahead of OSU.
I could see 2nd or 3rd, but FIFTH OR SIXTH ????
But wait. Nick Saban was allowed to be in the broadcast booth during the SECCG and was allowed to subtley plead his case that Alabama should get a do-over.
Why was Mike Gundy not afforded the same opportunity ?????????
And I wonder what made Little Nicky vote Oklahoma State FOURTH ????????????? Hmmmmmmm....
Why even """"""""""""""P L A Y"""""""""""""
conference championship games then ???????????
Well, Oklahoma St annihilated Oklahoma by FIVE TOUCHDOWNS to win the Big 12 Title.
Also, their strength of schedule RAN CIRCLES around Alabama's. OSU played many more bowl teams, ranked teams, and winning teams than Alabama.
Wasn't that (SOS) also supposed to be part of the BCS calculations ??????????????????
All the rest of the voters voted OSU 2nd or 3rd (except Little Nicky and this strangely biased faction).
There is no doubt in my aorta, my cerebral cortex, or my spleen - that OSU got shafted becaues of the grossly unfair bias to Saban and the "name" Alabama.
A second place division team, with a high school schedule, who lost at HOME, gets into the NATIONAL championship game ????
But a Conference Champion who destroyed their second place conference runnerup, and had a profoundly stronger schedule, gets rewarded by getting voted FIFTH OR SIXTH, by a mysterious, incredibly biased, UNQUALIFIED group of no-names ????
THAT'S who decided who plays for the national championship.
Fornicate those MulliGumpNeckTeabagCharminDetergentOverallsWearingSkoalSpitting'69EconolineDrivingAutoPartsCheckers
PlayingInbredTrailerHumpingGoldenFlakeCrumbsOn
TheirMouthPieces of UnbornMucasMembraneRegurgitatedPossumAfterbirthRotGutSkunkRectum Diarrhea.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 11:24 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:25 am to craigbiggio
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3 major BCS championship game controversies could have been avoided if they had implemented one simple (and obvious) rule: You can't play in the BCS championship game if you don't win your conference. 2001 Nebraska, 2003 Oklahoma and 2011 Alabama had no business playing in their respective title games. Nebraska and Alabama didn't even win their respective divisions.
Agreed. Conference members should not have been allowed the opportunity to claim a bigger prize than their conference champions, which diminishes conference championships.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 11:33 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:26 am to LSU92
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1969, when the Tigers had a gentlemen's agreement to play Texas in the Cotton Bowl for what would have been the national championship. When Notre Dame broke its bowl ban, Texas jumped at the chance to avoid what was Cholly Mac's best team. We lost to Archie 26-23 for our only loss. By the way, Ole Miss beat Arkansas (Arkansas played Texas for #1 at the end of the regular season and should have won) handily in the Sugar Bowl. The Longhorns were strictly a running team and would have been stopped cold by the great LSU defense.
There is SOOO MUCH of being wrong in this post.
I really don't think Texas was scared of LSU. ND lifted there bowl ban and the Cotton Bowl took the obvious choice for ratings and that was ND.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:27 am to MetryTyger
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Several BCS Human Poll Voters including coaches, former players...........and some who HAD NO GOOD REASON for having a right to vote because they had no qualifications WHATSOEVER........ 'seemed' to have formed some sort of faction after all the Conference Championship Games to vote on who should play LSU for the 2011 BCS Title. This faction AAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL voted Oklahoma State FIFTH OR SIXTH. FIFTH. OR. SIXTH. The same OSU team that was told all they had to do was beat Oklahoma and it should give them enough #2 votes to stay ahead of Alabama. Some of these voters voted HOUSTON ahead of OSU. I could see 2nd or 3rd, but FIFTH OR SIXTH ???? But wait. Nick Saban was allowed to be in the broadcast booth during the SECCG and was allowed to subtley plead his case that Alabama should get a do-over. Why was Mike Gundy not afforded the same opportunity ????????? And I wonder what made Little Nicky vote Oklahoma State FOURTH ????????????? Hmmmmmmm....
Great post. This was the last straw for me as a passionate college football fan. I laugh when people think this new playoff system is any different from the political BS that exists today.
There is a reason the NFL,NBA,MLB and others never have a problem deciding who are the playoff teams. They simply write the rules before the games are played.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:29 am to Rougarou4lsu
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1970 LSU football team shut out of bowl game
because Notre Dame decides to change bowl policy
1969
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Jerry Stovall fired after a decent 1st season
Huh? He was fired after his fourth season, not his first. And it wasn't "decent"; he went 4-7, his second losing season in three years.
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Shaq goes pro early because nobody in SEC stripes will blow a whistle when he's fouled.
We got hosed for sure, but that's not why he left. He would have left no matter what happened.
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Nick Saben resigns on Christmas to prove he can coach in the pros..
thanks Nick...Merry Christmas
Leaving for the pros wouldn't have been too bad if he hadn't....
...totally blown off the bowl game he was still supposed to be coaching in and
...given up like a pussy after one bad season in the pros and come running back to the little kids' table.
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Alabama still goes to BCS championship game after losing at home.
Yes, giving them that rematch was pure bullshite.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:35 am to Thunder Tiger
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Agreed. Conference members should not have been allowed to claim a bigger prize than their conference champions, which diminishes conference championships.
You can almost justify the 2003 Oklahoma team, because they were ridiculously dominant until Jason white got hurt in that Big 12 title game.
2001 Nebraska was a joke. They got blasted 62-36 by Colorado, then lucked out when Colorado beat Texas and LSU beat Tennessee in the Big 12/SEC title games. Kind of similar to LSU in 07 in that they needed 2 upsets to happen, only difference being LSU played that extra game while Nebraska sat at home.
2011 Alabama, the perception surrounding them and the SEC overtook all logic. Nevermind OSU played a tougher schedule and had beaten more ranked opponents (did Bama even beat a ranked team in the regular season?). It's almost poetic that the SEC's reputation, which helped us vault back into the title game in 07, ultimately doomed us in 2011.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:36 am to dukke v
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5 times inside the 50 in the 1st half and came away with NOTHING. The refs didn't STOP us from scorin
Yes they did. They negated Hester's catch on 4th down that would have given us the ball inside the Auburn 30. Instead, Auburn got the ball. How is that not stopping us from scoring?
We completed a pass deep into Auburn territory, but the refs call a phantom holding penalty. How is that not stopping us from scoring?
We throw a pass to the end zone where our receiver is tackled well before the ball arrives and no call. How is that not stopping us from scoring?
We throw a 4th down pass near the end of the game to the Auburn 10 or so, where our receiver is tackled well before the ball is tipped away, and PI call is reversed. How is that not stopping us from scoring?
If you make a bunch of plays that will lead to scores and the refs take ALL of them away with bullshite calls, how is that not stopping you from scoring?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:38 am to Nuts4LSU
Had we lost the 2011 SECCG to Georgia, wouldn't we still have played in the NCG? Against who?
OSU? Stanford?
OSU? Stanford?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:39 am to Nuts4LSU
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If you make a bunch of plays that will lead to scores and the refs take ALL of them away with bullshite calls, how is that not stopping you from scoring?
I understand what you are saying. I said there were shitty calls in the game but I blame the playing calling more.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:40 am to MetryTyger
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Had we lost the 2011 SECCG to Georgia, wouldn't we still have played in the NCG? Against who?
My guess is LSU and Alabama would have swapped spots.
Try to imagine that. 2 teams that didn't win their conference playing for the national title, while the SEC Champ UGA goes to the Capital One bowl because of the retarded "no more than 2 teams from one conference" rule.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 11:42 am
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:47 am to bearhc
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1969, when the Tigers had a gentlemen's agreement to play Texas in the Cotton Bowl for what would have been the national championship
It would not have been for the national championship. Texas was in line to win the NC, but we weren't, even with a win over them.
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When Notre Dame broke its bowl ban, Texas jumped at the chance to avoid what was Cholly Mac's best team
Well, the Cotton jumped at Notre Dame. Whether it was fear of LSU on Texas' part, we'll never know. I question, though, if Texas had the power to dictate to the Cotton who their opponent would be, and if they were afraid of LSU, then how and why would there have been a "gentlemen's agreement" to invite LSU in the first place?
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The Longhorns were strictly a running team and would have been stopped cold by the great LSU defense.
Maybe. Remember that LSU played absolutely nobody that season outside of Auburn (which we beat 21-20 at home by blocking the tying XP), Alabama (which went only 6-5, yet put up a fight in Tiger Stadium, losing by 5) and Ole Miss (which beat us). Also, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Texas running the wishbone at that time? I know that Alabama went to the wishbone in 1971, having copied it from Texas, so Texas had to be using it at least by 1970, but probably also 1969. If so, Mac's defenses, despite being great against the run in general, had terrible trouble with the wishbone.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:51 am to Nuts4LSU
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Texas running the wishbone at that time?
Yes they were. I am not so sure that LSU doesn't get creamed by Texas.
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