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NoHoTiger
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Mitch Rapp would never seek publicity like this.

Exactly, when he was outed, he just fricked them over in public and made them wish they had kept their mouths shut.

And ST6 and all men and women on the military should be treated like the heroes they are. We offer job placement assistance to people who graduate from college, why not helping the military with jobs when they return home?






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Staff Sgt. Romesha was a tough SOB that day, Audie Murphy like.


That's a badass citation. That guy is a great soldier.

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The government's failure to meet its dutiful obligations to veterans is an abysmal stain on our national character. That's been the case regardless of who was president and/or controlled the Congress. If Americans were as motivated by this wrong as they are by some of these other, trivial-by-comparison issues like the birthers, capital gains taxes, etc., maybe something would get done.


I appreciate the sentiments, but military quality of life has improved by leaps and bounds over the past several years (really going back to Reagan, accelerated under Bush). Military and their families are pretty well taken care of these days.






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I was about five guys back on the stairway when I saw the point man holding up. He'd seen Khalid, bin Laden's [twenty-three-year-old] son. I heard him whisper, "Khalid... come here..." in Arabic, then in Pashto. He used his name. That confused Khalid. He's probably thinking, "I just heard shitty Arabic and shitty Pashto. Who the frick is this?" He leaned out, armed with an AK, and he got blasted by the point man. That call-out was one of the best combat moves I've ever seen. Khalid had on a white T-shirt and, like, white pajama pants. He was the last line of security.


Good stuff...






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the VA hospital and other VA benefits ain't shabby.

he also could have just done 4 years reserves posting up one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year for the 4 years. i think technically if he became a postal worker his benefits could transfer as well. i remember someone talking about that once.
i think it applies to most federal jobs. which he could easily be qualified for.






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Navytiger74
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I was about five guys back on the stairway when I saw the point man holding up. He'd seen Khalid, bin Laden's [twenty-three-year-old] son. I heard him whisper, "Khalid... come here..." in Arabic, then in Pashto. He used his name. That confused Khalid. He's probably thinking, "I just heard shitty Arabic and shitty Pashto. Who the frick is this?" He leaned out, armed with an AK, and he got blasted by the point man. That call-out was one of the best combat moves I've ever seen. Khalid had on a white T-shirt and, like, white pajama pants. He was the last line of security.


This is awesome shite. This guy should definitely be able to get work as a writer or storyteller.






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Cholo
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And the startling failure of the United States government to help its most experienced and skilled warriors carry on with their lives.


Gotta disagree with you on this one. The military provides ample training and transition skills to those that want it. It's not the militarys fault if someone joins, doesn't do anything to make themselves more marketable, and then can't find a job when they get out before 20.






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i wasn't talking about a skill set.





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Navytiger74
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he also could have just done 4 years reserves posting up one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year for the 4 years. i think technically if he became a postal worker his benefits could transfer as well. i remember someone talking about that once. i think it applies to most federal jobs. which he could easily be qualified for.


It's not that simple. I'm not an expert on reserve benefits, but I know their retirement system is quite different from ours. It would likely have taken him longer than 4 years to accumulate 4 years of reserve service. And some reserve benefits don't become available until a certain age.

Same with another federal job. It's not a one-for-one proposition. Military retirement is largely separate (which technically gives you the ability to retire after 20, work as a govie for 10 or 20, and collect two retirements.

If you could just transfer those benefits over, a lot people would leave the service for a GS job the moment they got tired of moving around or deploying. Sounds like a good idea, though.






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why don't they get any benefits ? b/c they're spec ops?




Retirement is after 20






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I appreciate the sentiments, but military quality of life has improved by leaps and bounds over the past several years (really going back to Reagan, accelerated under Bush). Military and their families are pretty well taken care of these days.
Yeah, I know. I was talking about the PTSD treatment stuff and the Walter Reed incident. Seems like there was a 60 Minutes bit about gaps in funding for the permanently disabled, too - amputees, para & quadriplegics, etc.

We've got a huge VA hospital here and I know they have programs for all that stuff, but they can't treat people who don't ask for it, so I guess it goes both ways. Seems



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Should of stayed in for 4 more years like everyone else that gets the benefits. He is no better than the rest of the military serving our country because he shot Osama. They all deserve the same treatment.


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He is no better than the rest of the military serving our country because he shot Osama.

i may be a dick, but he's better than a lot of the military b/c he was spec ops. what tehy do is literally fricking insane






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StraightCashHomey21
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4 more years may have killed him. hell, one more mission may have killed him. he clearly didn't want to push his luck anymore...he had lived through what he surely thought would be his last one and he had enough. sad there is no special compensation for these guys



he could have became a cadre like most operators due multiple times in their career if they are doing 20.






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Navytiger74
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Should of stayed in for 4 more years like everyone else that gets the benefits. He is no better than the rest of the military serving our country because he shot Osama. They all deserve the same treatment.


I appreciate all service members as well, but most military jobs have far more in common with some civilian equivalent than they do with special operations. A lot of those guys love it, but their lives are pretty rough.

Still, unless congress decides to establish different retirement systems for different MOSs/rates/designators, etc, I don't see how the guy has a legitimate gripe.






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I'm not an expert on reserve benefits, but I know their retirement system is quite different from ours. It would likely have taken him longer than 4 years to accumulate 4 years of reserve service. And some reserve benefits don't become available until a certain age.


i'm not either and i served in the reserves. i know it's a point system. the points count as days or something. the more you do through courses and etc. the more points you get. i know there is a limit. you are able to earn extra points to get ahead if you go above and beyond the requirement. but yeah i forgot it doesn't kick in until 60 unless you get enough points for 20 i guess.






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LSUbacchus
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The comment about the government taking care of hundreds of thousands of vets every year, and only a few are spec ops makes me think they can be taken care of by our president who seems to take all of the credit to begin with. Amazing how they can treat these guys





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StraightCashHomey21
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Amazing how they can treat these guys



its all relative esp while they are in. Operators get many perks the avg service member does not. Once they get out former operators can make bukku cash.






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BTHog


You are so full of shite. You lying, shitbag.







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Janky
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My late friend who was a member of Team Six , one of the one killed in the helicopter shooting in 'Stan , told us that all the Team member had swore to each other that they would never discuss the details of the Bin Laden shooting.


I remember you talking about this when we had a thread on Adam Brown. I think you are telling the truth.






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