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would you be OK with this policy if michelle bachmann was president? rick santorum? pat robertson? david duke?


although he has to say yes now. He has painted himself into a corner.






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Let's think about this by analogy. You are in a traditional battlefield situation, and an american platoon goes awol. You discover later that they seem to have joined the other side, but you don't know for sure. You see that they are vulnerably having a picnic in the middle of a valley. Luckily you, the spy, can call it 7 A-10 warthogs to make it seem as though they never existed. Do they get due process?





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There is no link, because there is no process.


The military doesn't have a standardized targeting process? We don't have targeting officers? We don't have a Joint Pub specifically laying things out?

Use google. I'm sure it's out there.






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WAIT A COTTON PICKIN MINUTE HERE! Ed Schultz had a huge rant against this the other day. So he changed his mind and did another show in support of killing Americans because he got a phone call from Obamas thugs and his sheep are now buying this utter BS propaganda?





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i always bring that point up

when the "noble philosopher" leader of the progressives consolidates power it's seen as OK due to their superior morality/intelligence, but they always forget that a crazy religious nut will one day be in the same role with the same powers






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So it must be blindly assumed that a political apointee makes a correct application of use of force, you may feel that is acceptable, I for one will never accept this premise.

Nothing in that white paper even hints at any protocol for application of use of force.

It doesn't even fricking state who or what agency has the authority to order a fricking hit on an American.

If you aren't nervous about that then you have way too fricking much faith in a government that yesterday you claimed has abused civil rights more than our European brethren.






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. Luckily you, the spy, can call it 7 A-10 warthogs to make it seem as though they never existed. Do they get due process?

honest question: when did we stop having trials for treason?






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Let's think about this by analogy. You are in a traditional battlefield situation, and an american platoon goes awol. You discover later that they seem to have joined the other side, but you don't know for sure. You see that they are vulnerably having a picnic in the middle of a valley. Luckily you, the spy, can call it 7 A-10 warthogs to make it seem as though they never existed. Do they get due process?



There is a direct and established criteria in the UCMJ for this exact situation.

A shame you can't do basic research.

And it is what is mentioned in the 5th amendment.






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The military doesn't have a standardized targeting process? We don't have targeting officers? We don't have a Joint Pub specifically laying things out?

Use google. I'm sure it's out there.


Can you point to the part of the constitution that allows this military process to override civil liberties for citizens?

tia.






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What statute would that person / that platoon be prosecuted under without being in the USA and being in a field of war?





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The military doesn't have a standardized targeting process?
We are talking about the targeting process?

I am talking about the criteria for determining that an American citizen shall be denied his rights under the US Constitution.






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hat statute would that person / that platoon be prosecuted under without being in the USA and being in a field of war?
UCMJ Article 104.






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That's my point.





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would you be OK with this policy if michelle bachmann was president? rick santorum? pat robertson? david duke?


I'm not "ok" with the policy now. I fully support it. And as much as I like to shoot the shite about politics with you people, I'm also a commissioned officer of the United States. I take that pretty seriously. I don't support or decry life and death policies because one party or another is in power in Washington.






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That's my point.
They still get due process.






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I'm not "ok" with the policy now. I fully support it.
Huh?






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What statute would that person / that platoon be prosecuted under without being in the USA and being in a field of war?

pretty sure soldiers have procedures they agree to when they join the military. those in the military don't enjoy the same processes

this is more of my neighbor gets a job in Dubai working for an oil company and he's accused of aiding terrorists without a way to defend himself






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What??





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I don't support or decry life and death policies because one party or another is in power in Washington.

i'm not arguing party. i don't support the DEMs or the GOP

i gave you examples of crazy religious nuts, 3 of whom are GOP (and 1 is a racist dick)

i don't want those frickers having this power as well as Obama






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What??
LINK

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Death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct



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