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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:35 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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based on a lot of superstition and completely illogical thinking
No superstition. Illogical thinking to a degree.
Dude, do you not realize the difference between the two? I hate to tell you this, but you are not nearly as smart as you think you are.
It almost seems like you lump everyone who disagrees with you into the same basket of stupid. And that simply is not the case. You are way to young.
So you think the OWS person is as stupid as the person who said a womans body can shut down things in the case of legitimate rape?
Come on dude. Get a grip.
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Bayou Sam 
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro)
There are lots of liberal religious folks who would certainly disagree with that...
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:40 pm to thetempleowl)
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Dude, do you not realize the difference between the two? I hate to tell you this, but you are not nearly as smart as you think you are.
everyone separates themselves into little groups and creates a narrative for that group to separate themselves from others
one silly self-identification myth is the same as the other to me
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So you think the OWS person is as stupid as the person who said a womans body can shut down things in the case of legitimate rape?
pretty much
the rape one seems like a political gaffe b/c of an issue with abortion. same with the "legitimate rape" stuff
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Come on dude. Get a grip.
do you have a system of ranking this stupidity/
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:43 pm to Bayou Sam)
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There are lots of liberal religious folks who would certainly disagree with that...
they lie to themselves in order to try and make both work, intellectually
it's similar to the issues with the "legitimate" rape stuff an abortion. you can't say that you're pro life to protect the baby and then allow exceptions to the abortion ban
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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again, these aren't exactly a daily occurrence, either
No one thing is something that happens daily. However, you add up everything and it happens every couple of days.
And these things are not questioned. It is not that a new mammal from either 1.5 million years ago or a creature that poofed into existence 6000 years ago and then became extinct is how these articles are written.
LINK
Story on the front page of yahoo. These things are out there and are common and have dates in it of over 6000 years ago.
But sorry. SFP can not be wrong. Again, you are smart, but you are not as smart as you think. And there are people out there a lot more stupid than you think.
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jonboy
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:50 pm to thetempleowl)
Its mother flipping Papua New Guinea people. Think Stone Age with pockets of electricty.
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tom
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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who decides what is real science and fake science?
Desperation is not becoming.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:53 pm to tom)
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Desperation is not becoming.
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C
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:54 pm to thetempleowl)
I knew this would be PNG before I opened the thread. Place is fricked up but beautiful and has gone from the stone age to the 21st century in about a single generation in some parts.
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Zahrim
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:57 pm to thetempleowl)
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we have some people even on this board who do not believe in {INSERT WORD}. Ignorance is ignorance.
Nutrition
common sense
when life begins
personal responsibility
parental responsibility
GMO's
Stem Cell Research
Freedom OF Religion
The second amendment
and on and on and on... yer a hack... move along 
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 9:58 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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do you have a system of ranking this stupidity/
There are definitely degrees of it yes. Or degrees of intelligence.
However you wish to rank it.
And the ows movement is in many ways a rebelling against authority that many people undergo. It is very similar to the hippie movement back in the day but not quite as popular.
What don't understand is immaturity versus stupidity.
You think that anyone that has a different view of the world than you is stupid because you are right.
You arguing this point though shows that you are immature and pushing a bad position. There is little doubt that there are degrees of stupidity out there.
The legitimate rape shutting down thing was a monumental piece of stupidity. It really ties into the same belief structure as the young earthers. It is belief in a totally moronic belief because of some religious belief that blinds you to anything approaching intelligent discussion on the matter.
And yes, both are much more stupid than the OWS people.
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:03 pm to C)
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I knew this would be PNG before I opened the thread
I didn't know it would be there. I have to tell you I rarely think of PNG.
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Place is fricked up but beautiful and has gone from the stone age to the 21st century in about a single generation in some parts.
Seems like it has. But hell, the government outlawed sorcery in 1971.
There were cops there but they were powerless to prevent the killing or so the articles say.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:06 pm to thetempleowl)
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And the ows movement is in many ways a rebelling against authority that many people undergo
doesn't make it less stupid or an example of following bull shite. and i am nto saying this acting like i never bought into the bullshite, b/c i did. i feel like a fricking idiot for doing it, though
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What don't understand is immaturity versus stupidity.
both are based in ignorance
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You think that anyone that has a different view of the world than you is stupid because you are right.
not really
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. It is belief in a totally moronic belief because of some religious belief that blinds you to anything approaching intelligent discussion on the matter.
this is where you show a bias. this is just fanaticism and molding an explanation system around a belief system. you just don't like religion, and you are developing your own explanation system around that belief system
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You arguing this point though shows that you are immature and pushing a bad position.
nobody ever likes to admit their bias or admit they fall into the same traps as those they consider inferior
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There is little doubt that there are degrees of stupidity out there.
who determines these degrees? this is about as bad as progressive belief coming from "on high" from an unknown source
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both are much more stupid than the OWS people.
OWS in many exampled included people that actually believed that there was a system built against them, or that they were taken advantage of by making bad economic choices. both are incredibly stupid
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C
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:06 pm to thetempleowl)
The cops don't get paid on a regular basis in the rural areas and are pretty worthless unless it's the RPNGC. This is really not that rare there.
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C
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:09 pm to C)
Just read the article and I'm really surprised this is the first burning in a year. That's progress. I think they had about 50 in 2009 and about the same in 2010.
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:14 pm to Zahrim)
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and on and on and on... yer a hack... move along
Actually no. There is ignorance. And then there are people who willfully ignore lots of things to keep an obviously and easily dispelled belief.
That is different than the debates on many of the subjects you point out. Many of the topics you point out are opinions. These are different than the young earthers.
People who feel that the second amendment means different thing have been discussed for years.
So you are saying this...
Is the same as saying that perhaps the founders meant an armed militia and not everyone? Or that they are as foolish as whether one needs to eat dairy?
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:14 pm to thetempleowl)
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]The things you point out are a very different situation than the so called young earthers. These are true believers who wake up every morning and have to ignore things every day to blindly believe in what they believe.
And I would propose people that won't admit that the sun, volcanoes, seasons, etc. are main factors in global warming because it doesn't fit their religion, are also willfully ignorant.
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:18 pm to C)
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Just read the article and I'm really surprised this is the first burning in a year. That's progress. I think they had about 50 in 2009 and about the same in 2010.
Not a PNG specialist. The whole situation surprised me. I guess I was a bit surprised. In many of those societies they embrace the occult type things. But these people fear it.
I don't know of many amazon tribes that would burn witches at the stake. Why do some societies do this?
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thetempleowl
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:22 pm to Revelator)
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And I would propose people that won't admit that the sun, volcanoes, seasons, etc. are main factors in global warming because it doesn't fit their religion, are also willfully ignorant.
I think most people would agree that they main factors in overall global warming.
But the difference is that they think that mankind is having an effect on the climate of the earth as well.
Don't you think it is foolish to believe that 6 billion people on this planet couldn't be having an effect on the climate of the world?
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Bayou Sam
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| re: witch burned alive, feb 8, 2013 (Posted on 2/7/13 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro)
Bold statement. How do you figure that? Lots of people would argue that Christianity jives more with political principles usually associated with liberalism than the other way around (at least in economic terms--see the Pope, for instance). On the flipside, I know quite a few libertarians who consider their atheism to be part of their political beliefs.
I don't think there's any one right answer to these sorts of arguments, but I also think it's rather silly to think the issue is in any way clear.
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