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re: Why Can't the United States Assemble a Championship Soccer Team?

Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:24 pm to
He might need to lighten up and I might need to post less (I thought this thread was general enough for me to comment on without being entirely ignorant as I am a noob).
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:26 pm to
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Landon Donovan is an elite athlete


It's about context. His physical attributes translate extremely well to what he does on the field. He's very, very quick. He's not a freak show of an all-around athlete, but for what he does, you could consider him very athletic.

Same with Lionel Messi. I wouldn't consider him to be a great all-around athlete, but for soccer, he is certainly an elite athlete.
Posted by kieper89
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:42 pm to
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Posted by kieper89
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:43 pm to
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Sorry that we're more intelligent, cultured, and better looking than the rest of the American sports heathens out there.




I love that!
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:44 pm to
I agree with Cwill FWIW
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:44 pm to
I love double posts so I'm gay
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Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:57 pm to
what a passive aggressive fgt...you and that other guy take this board and your soccer expertise too seriously.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:12 am to
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Soccer is more of a contact sport than football, Landon Donovan is an elite athlete, Kobi jones > Adrian Peterson, etc

I want to come back to this.

No one on here is going to agree with one or three of that statement (contact and Cobi Jones), or at least I don't think. Saying that LD is an elite athlete depends on your definition of elite, really.

So, yeah, I guess I'm not like the guys from your HS, but I would say that 90% of the people on here aren't, either.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 12:13 am
Posted by acgeaux129
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:45 am to
The cobi jones one was a joke but some friends were trying to convince me of the first part a while back.

LD I agree on... not in the context of raw talent discussed in thread though. I'm outta here, tired of these back and forth threads on here.

Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:25 am to
I don't understand why people automatically think that if someone plays soccer then they are no where near the athleticism of football/basketball players.

Just about all professional soccer players are elite athletes, as are just about all football and basketball players.

You have to be an elite athlete to be a professional player. I would say Cron is one of the best athletes in the world with AP and LBJ.
Posted by Atom-Z
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:59 am to
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bluebarracuda


Because its a commie eurofag sport
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 10:20 am to
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I agree with Cwill FWIW


quote:

what a passive aggressive fgt...you and that other guy take this board and your soccer expertise too seriously.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:23 am to
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The US doesn't need the country's top athletes to succeed.

no it doesn't, but people will always wonder what we could do IF our top athletes played

i could only imagine what kind of butt fricking a lebron james or josh smith could do on a soccer field

our athletes are so freakish that a 6-9 guy who has a better speed/strength combo than any current soccer player could realistically have developed into a top dribbler/passer of the ball

it's that tantalizing fantasy that keeps people coming back to the argument, and you're never going to get away from it
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:27 am to
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our athletes are so freakish that a 6-9 guy who has a better speed/strength combo than any current soccer player could realistically have developed into a top dribbler/passer of the ball

like Crouch?

at best, one in twenty (maybe more) would result in a Yaya Touré. At best.


beaucoups fail
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 11:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:30 am to
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lol, NBA is basically Dunkball, it's a joke.


what the frick?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:38 am to
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You do realize that Landon Donovan is essentially Wes Welker without steroids, right?

wes welker isn't considered an elite athlete though. not even close
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:39 am to
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Even NBA basketball requires more overall athleticism than the soccer.

even?

basketball (at an elite level) requires the freakiest of freak athletes

i don't think you people truly appreciate what kind of coordination is required of a 6-7+ player to handle and pass the ball, on top of the base level requirements of strength/speed/quickness/reactions in top level basketball
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:40 am to
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Basketball is like soccer on a smaller court, with less running, more timeouts and more stoppage of play. So I am gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

basketball is certainly more anaerobic but don't be dense. the NBA is filled with the world's biggest freaks of athletes, with the NFL coming in a close second
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:40 am to
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i could only imagine what kind of butt fricking a lebron james or josh smith could do on a soccer field


None, really, unless our developmental system changed.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:41 am to
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None, really, unless our developmental system changed.
this. and even then, hit or miss, and I´d gravitate towards miss.
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