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MrCarton
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This draft issue should have been put to rest years ago. Women should always been registered. They could do office work allowing pansy azzed office boys to go to the front lines. Now some genius says they can serve on the front lines. I say they should serve on the front lines if they can pass the physical requirements that are already in place.


We do not need women to register for Selective service. Amongst then many reasons this is stupid is that a surplus of manpower (snicker) begs for a reason to use it.

Physical standards for combat arms are almost identical to that of then rest of the service and serve only as a minimum. They have built in room for physical and mental maturity. Allowing scores of minimum standard women in those jobs would lower the median performance and in a socialist system like the military that would be a horrible thing.

Physical standards are not the only barrier to being a professional combatant. There are assumed physiological standards that are not currently written as a standard for those jobs.

Those panzy arse office boys are needed and most of them could be used to do some heavy lifting if needed. Not true of women.






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MrCarton
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Seriously, I'd be willing to bet the very idea is having a detectable, negative effect on enemy morale.


Nah, but even if it did imagine your squad mate being raped by 12 or so insurgents the being dropped back at the firebase. Morale booster for sure...

Insurgents routinely use women and kids in suicide attacks. The concept of total war and guerrilla tactics are old as dirt.

Besides, who wants to carry some slices equipment to the OBJ just so she can miss?






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GoCrazyAuburn
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I agree that drafting women would be a terrible idea, however I also don't agree with their selective equality.

They want to be able to fight on the front line, but not to be able to be drafted. I think if you get one, you get the other (also think they should be able to fight on the front lines, but looks like that ship has sailed).






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MrCarton
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I can understand why you guys feel this way, but the military isn't fair. It has never been about equal distribution of labor or equal opportunity. The work horses always get ridden hard and put up wet because that is what we need to fight and win. To live in that environment can take a toll on your mind and make you question your own sanity, but at the end of the day it should be about winning.

I am not looking to exacerbate the problem by pretending that the military should live up to a standard of fairness ans opportunity that never existed.

But I am a bitter man.

Recently a man with 14 combat tours was killed. 14. Combat tours. 14. He was a pro to his very fricking bones. His whole adult life was spent overseas working with and developing others to be what he was. The very idea of prancing females into combat for the sake of equality is taking a shite on this man's life, professionalism, and horrible exit from the world. I an ashamed of what is taking place right now. I am ashamed that people who support this garbage are completely ignorant of what it takes to be a pro in that line of work.




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blueboy
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Besides, who wants to carry some slices equipment to the OBJ just so she can miss?

The most famous sharpshooter of all time was a woman.
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Nah, but even if it did imagine your squad mate being raped by 12 or so insurgents the being dropped back at the firebase. Morale booster for sure...

This kind of thing is the most cited reason for disallowing women. There might even be some truth to it, but personally, if I witnessed something like that, it would make me want to fight more, not less.






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blueboy
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some slice
Never mind. I'm talking to the wall, aren't I?






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MrCarton
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There might even be some truth to it, but personally, if I witnessed something like that, it would make me want to fight more, not less.


Well, agree to disagree.

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The most famous sharpshooter of all time was a woman.


This is pure ignorance. Are you comparing a trick shot artist to a professional combatant?









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MrCarton
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Never mind. I'm talking to the wall, aren't I?


No, but you are talking out of your arse on this issue.






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unbeWEAVEable
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Man, this is like a bunch of 4 year olds arguing over a toy.





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Siderophore
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There's probably a reason those men work those jobs. You don't want just anyone going to the front lines.


When you are drafting with our military, you aren't looking for badasses.

You are looking for cannon fodder.






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MrCarton
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Man, this is like a bunch of 4 year olds arguing over a toy.


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Redbone
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We do not need women to register for Selective service. Amongst then many reasons this is stupid is that a surplus of manpower (snicker) begs for a reason to use it.

Physical standards for combat arms are almost identical to that of then rest of the service and serve only as a minimum. They have built in room for physical and mental maturity. Allowing scores of minimum standard women in those jobs would lower the median performance and in a socialist system like the military that would be a horrible thing.

Physical standards are not the only barrier to being a professional combatant. There are assumed physiological standards that are not currently written as a standard for those jobs.

Those panzy arse office boys are needed and most of them could be used to do some heavy lifting if needed. Not true of women.


I'm not sure where to start. this is soooo ignorant. If we had excess men they wouldn't be allowing women on the front line ... or did you miss that point?? + There physical and mental standards are already there. Lowering/raising the average on the front lines doesn't matter BUT you missed the point of the thread. This is about ADDING registration to someone's idea of allowing them on the front line. The lower/higher average of the total has no bearing on the front line averages.

You are arguing front line duty. This is about selective service we are talking .... if they allow women on the front line. If they have to start the draft again they could could put those drafted women in the positions that the pansy arsed boys were in before they were sent to the front lines.

I don't think women should be allowed on front line duty BUT if they can serve there they most certainly be drafted in to the service to fill positions they are qualified for.

Unbreevable, if you don't think we should be discussing go screw a poodle. I really don't give a ratzazz what you think either buttbreath.



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CarrolltonTiger
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If we had excess men they wouldn't be allowing women on the front line ... or did you miss that point??


Women are not being put in combat units because we need them there, they are being put there for progressive reasons.

We probably willnever need a draft and we certainly will never need to draft women. Perhaps we could need to draft doctors or some specialty, but large conscript armies are a thing of the past. We had over 100 army and marine divisions in WWII with about 1/2 of the population we have today, we probably have less than 18 division equivalents today. manpower is not an issue.






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Redbone
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This is pure ignorance. Are you comparing a trick shot artist to a professional combatant?


eat crow. Google is your friend. Just one of many articles.

www.oldmagazinearticles.com/article.php?Article_Summary=1426

another:

www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical.../the-greatest-female-sniper/

another:

minimumwagehistorian.com/2012/05/02/russian-snipers-of-wwii/






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Bestbank Tiger
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Hopefully never. They need to do away with that nonsense altogether.





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MrCarton
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If we had excess men they wouldn't be allowing women on the front line ... or did you miss that point??


Wrong. This is purely a political issue, not a practical one.

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The lower/higher average of the total has no bearing on the front line averages.


Wrong.

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You are arguing front line duty. This is about selective service we are talking .... if they allow women on the front line. If they have to start the draft again they could could put those drafted women in the positions that the pansy arsed boys were in before they were sent to the front lines.


So let me get this straight... take trained people out of their jobs, replace them with untrained females, retrain the old support people to perform in combat during a conflict. Awesome idea...

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There physical and mental standards are already there. Lowering/raising the average on the front lines doesn't matter BUT you missed the point of the thread.


The standards are not there. I explained that there are unwritten, unquantifiable standards that are not currently tested. This breathing room exists for several reasons, among them is that it has always been assumed that combat soldier s would be men.

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Unbreevable, if you don't think we should be discussing go screw a poodle. I really don't give a ratzazz what you think either buttbreath.

Great.






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Redbone
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We probably willnever need a draft and we certainly will never need to draft women. Perhaps we could need to draft doctors or some specialty, but large conscript armies are a thing of the past. We had over 100 army and marine divisions in WWII with about 1/2 of the population we have today, we probably have less than 18 division equivalents today. manpower is not an issue.


You REALLY think this is true??? We are sending wounded guys back into duty!! We are sending regular army guys back for 2 & 3 tours in war zone!! We are sending reservists over seas .... for 2 and even 3 tours of duty in the war zone!!! WTF MAN!??! Clinton cut the military size and Bush went into war but was afraid of political repercussions. He would not institute draft or increase size of military. WE PHUQUING SHORT NOW!!!!






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MrCarton
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Oh, I thought you were referring to Annie Oakley as that is probably the only female shooter to match your description.

Did you link an article to the greatest female sniper?
Hang on I will post a link to the greatest female Olympic lifter...










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CarrolltonTiger
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You REALLY think this is true???


Your comment proves it is true. We aren't using a draft in spite of the woes you cite.

It is politically impossible to institute a draft for an unpopular war. And we will never have a war where it is necessary and feasible.







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MrCarton
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CT is absolutely right. We are not short. In fact we have been cutting joes left and right. College degrees will soon become mandatory for promotion to SSG and SFC in combat arms fields. The army is moving towards a small war configuration.

We send wounded men back for several reasons. They volunteer, they are already trained, and their experience is invaluable. They also stay in because of the bonus money and the benefits. You are clearly uninformed on the issue. If you want to know then ask someone who can tell you.






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