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Redbone 
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Prairieville
Member since Sep 2012
491 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:23 pm to BugAC)
phuque obomba and his socialist care.
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a want
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Silicone Holler
Member since Oct 2010
6909 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:33 pm to jiggy0)
Bookmarked for ridicule. There's no fricking way the cheapest insurance is $20k.
This will look a lot like the Joshua Chamberlin ("we're going to win") disaster. 
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I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
2184 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:57 pm to lsu1980)
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Try this calculator LINK /
Just did with $135000 family income and youngest adult a 19---typical middle class family with a kid in college and 4 total family members. Projected premium $514 per month or $6168. Total out of pocket $12100 for a total cost of $18268 per year.
My situation is not quite the same but should be more expensive. Today I pay $10800 per year and have a maximum out of pocket of $5600 for a total of $16400. My premium has gone up without any claims $4000 per year over 2008 premiums.
Obama care is about making insurance companies and government richer and as a consequence politicians richer. Can you imagine how much lobbyist have been passing around on this deal??
This post was edited on 2/1 at 2:59 pm
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crawdaddy52 
Vanderbilt Fan
Member since Dec 2010
507 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:00 pm to a want)
We have had universal care forever. There is at least one hospital in every city that will not turn people away. Ultimately we all pay for 40 million people going to emergency rooms for primary care. This is the most inefficient system possible.
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I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
2184 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:06 pm to crawdaddy52)
Health care should be subscription based and no insurance companies involved. This is where Ryan was headed with his medicare proposal that was also part of Simpson Bowles.
Government over paying for care the last 3 decades is the reason health care is so high. The government buys over 50% of the health care in the US now and they are very, very poor buyers.
Those of us of a certain age remember when hospital bills were by the day. Easy to shop. Some wise guy got the idea that medicare and medicaid should be fee for service and that is when we started getting these 100 page bills.
The other very, very bad thing is this. Health providers that take medicare can not charge anyone LESS than they charge medicare. Medicare sits a floor that keeps rising. If you are Pfizer and want another $2 a pill for some drug you lobby medicare to raise your reimburse and wa-la every body gets a $2 per pill increase. IT SUCKS BADLY.
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TigerJeff
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the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
8804 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:10 pm to CajunAngele)
wow what a fricking bargain
Is the cost basically driven by Obama's/leftists' goal to cover folks who can't pay for their own health care, i.e., illegal aliens for example? In other words, are American middle class families (and an income of $120,000 is solidly middle-class) going to be footing the bill for anchor babies' medical expenses? I don't want to over-generalize but isn't that pretty much what's happening?
This post was edited on 2/1 at 3:12 pm
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TheDrunkenTigah
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
3699 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:22 pm to CajunAngele)
I know you think you're doing a good thing here, but this kind of chain email bull shite is what makes rational conservatives look bad.
This is an estimate. Used to illustrate an example. The use of the word average should be enough of a clue to tell you that this isn't some sort of hard cap like the CNS article implies.
Get your head out of your arse and stop crying wolf everytime jimbo's blog says the sky is falling. This kind of shite is exactly why Obama got a second term.
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JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
5515 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:36 pm to EZE Tiger Fan)
A kid who work at Mcdonalds told me they pay him on debit cards to avoid having a bank account. 
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jiggy0
LSU Fan
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
156 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:47 pm to TheDrunkenTigah)
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This is an estimate. Used to illustrate an example. The use of the word average should be enough of a clue to tell you that this isn't some sort of hard cap like the CNS article implies.
I've been following Obamacare closely because it could really have an effect on my bottom line. I see what you're saying, that this COULD be just an example used to illustrate a point. The problem is we have so little information as to the actual regulations effecting the cost that it's not absurd to look at this and try to get a feel for where they are going.
We don't know what is required of us. We do know that the IRS will be the enforcer of the regs and the aggregator of all the information. So when they say the "average" premium will be 20k, with the paltry amount of information we have concerning the regs, it's reasonable to speculate on that number.
I think you're off base here.
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Diamondawg 
Mississippi St. Fan
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
8264 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:55 pm to I B Freeman)
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Those of us of a certain age remember when hospital bills were by the day. Easy to shop. Some wise guy got the idea that medicare and medicaid should be fee for service and that is when we started getting these 100 page bills.
Neither Medicare nor Medicaid pay for inpatient stays based on FFS. The bill may be 100 pages long but the hospital is paid based on the diagnosis among some other qualifiers.
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boxcar willie
LSU Fan
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
2835 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 9:12 pm to jiggy0)
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Wtf are you talking about? I have a family of four and we pay a total of four hundred a month, or 4800 a year. You have no clue. That's a 750 deductible with BCBS.
that sounds like BS. NO way family of 4 for $400. I don't believe even 1 person can get insurance for $400 a month. Maybe you pay $400 a month and your company pays the rest?
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Taxing Authority
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Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16738 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:25 pm to I B Freeman)
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The government buys over 50% of the health care in the US now and they are very, very poor buyers.
Yeah, but when they are buying 100% under single payer they will get much better at it, and everyone will get a pony for Christmas.
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Taxing Authority
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Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16738 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:28 pm to boxcar willie)
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not sure why you laugh at Canadas health care plan?
 at you not even knowing why I
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TROLA
LSU Fan
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
5209 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/1/13 at 11:46 pm to boxcar willie)
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that sounds like BS. NO way family of 4 for $400. I don't believe even 1 person can get insurance for $400 a month. Maybe you pay $400 a month and your company pays the rest?
I pay a flat 200 dollar bonus to 7 employees for insurance. They are required to give me a bill every 6 months to prove they are keeping there payments up. Only two are over 200 a month and they both have maternity . I just got one the other day and she pays 108 a month..
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SoulGlo
LSU Fan
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
1986 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 2:17 am to Interception)
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We need single payer/ UK style system.
I would rather that than this monstrosity
This was the intended result from the beginning.
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Bestbank Tiger 
Tulane Fan
Landmass Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2005
15750 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 8:55 am to TROLA)
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I pay a flat 200 dollar bonus to 7 employees for insurance. They are required to give me a bill every 6 months to prove they are keeping there payments up. Only two are over 200 a month and they both have maternity . I just got one the other day and she pays 108 a month..
That's actually a smart way to do it. They can shop around for a plan that meets their own family's needs, and you save money.
But Ogump and Pelousy would think you're horrible because you give your employees freedom of choice.
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Diamondawg
Mississippi St. Fan
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
8264 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:16 am to TROLA)
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I pay a flat 200 dollar bonus
So they have to claim that as income?
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drexyl
LSU Fan
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
13585 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:29 am to a want)
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Bookmarked for ridicule.
its the IRS estimate; you saying they just pulled this number out of thin air?
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drexyl
LSU Fan
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
13585 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:30 am to a want)
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CNS? Really?
its a treasury regulation not an opinion blog
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Bestbank Tiger
Tulane Fan
Landmass Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2005
15750 posts
| re: IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan: Family Of Five making $120K -$20,000/Year (Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:29 pm to drexyl)
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its the IRS estimate; you saying they just pulled this number out of thin air?
You are so superstitious and gullible for listening to original sources. You need to get your news from Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews.
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