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weagle99
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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So what are the laws on purchasing a gun at a gun show? Are they the same as purchasing them from a retailer? Is there a background check when you buy a gun from a gun store or from a gun show? I've purchased guns from both and don't recall any sort of background check and got my guns right away from both.



The laws at a gunshow are exactly the same as your local and Federal laws.

if you purchase a gun from a retailer / FFL dealer at their store, or at the show, they have to complete a background check.

If you purchase a gun from a private individual at their house, or at the show, they do not have to complete a background check.

Nothing is special about a gunshow other that it is a gathering of sellers and buyers all in one place.



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PsychTiger
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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You don't even make sense anymore.


Wait, when did Rex make sense?






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Vegas Bengal
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If there is no loop hole then any law closing it would be redundant. So shouldn't the NRA support this as a "concession" to gun control? That way everyone's happy. The left gets it redundant law and the right gets no new law.





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Turbeauxdog
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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If there is no loop hole then any law closing it would be redundant. So shouldn't the NRA support this as a "concession" to gun control? That way everyone's happy. The left gets it redundant law and the right gets no new law.


Gun show loophole fails on 2 points.

1) Its not gun show related as private sales which occur at a circus are treated exactly the same

2) There is no loophole, there is the conscious decision to exclude private transactions from background checks.

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Go try to pass this bull shite off to some other morons






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Vegas Bengal
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Just asking a question.

Ya know the last month has brought back Obama's gaffe from 2008. People who are so frustrated with politics that they cling to religion and guns. Check out the threads here. Those two topics draw the most irrational or exaggerated or vitriolic responses of any on this board.

Am I the only one here who doesn't care which side wins?






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Tim
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


So, let me get this straight. Rex claims:

1. Get a friend to buy the gun at a gun show
2. Buy gun from friend

(Loophole)

And if friend goes to Gander Mountain:

1. Get a friend to buy the gun at Gander
2. Buy gun from friend

(No loophole)

And both locations require background check...







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weagle99
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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If there is no loop hole then any law closing it would be redundant. So shouldn't the NRA support this as a "concession" to gun control? That way everyone's happy. The left gets it redundant law and the right gets no new law.


They could pass some bull shite law stating that gunshows have to abide by Federal and local laws, which wouldn't do anything but reaffirm what is already happening. Beyond that I am opposed to any new laws.






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Turbeauxdog
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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Just asking a question.

Ya know the last month has brought back Obama's gaffe from 2008. People who are so frustrated with politics that they cling to religion and guns. Check out the threads here. Those two topics draw the most irrational or exaggerated or vitriolic responses of any on this board.

Am I the only one here who doesn't care which side wins?


What is this nonsense?

I don't believe in God, and I believe that governments are innately tyrannical. I think both of those positions are supported by history, philosophy, science or whatever form or knowledge you prefer as a foundation to your beliefs.

If you want to have an honest discussion about an issue, you need to quit assuming your opponents are all backward hillbillies who are fricking their moms, sisters, and uncles.

I've read many of your posts and was very glad to see you back on this board, you can do better than that, and considering how outnumbered you are, its imperative you do to keep the discourse productive.






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FT
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


I agree. We should call it "that big arse loophole that undermines the entire system".





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Taxing Authority
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


Has anyone pointed to the statute that exempts "gun show"?





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Taxing Authority
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I agree. We should call it "that big arse loophole that undermines the entire system".
Poorly named. Closing the loophole would be a nightmare. Who will administrate it? Local police? They don't have time for this crap. Federales? Does the FBI have time for it? Don't think so. By Biden's own admission you can drive a truck through the existing NCIC database. Who's going to fix it when it's wrong? Who is going to put the records in?

It's all easy to say "somebody should do something" but actually doing it is somehting completely different.

In the end, the gun grabber have no solution. Only unworkable crap that sounds good to the short-sighted.






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TigerTatorTots
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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The loophole is that somebody at a gun show who sees a gun he wants but doesn't want to submit to an instant background check can have his friend buy it there for him. The loophole is that criminals know that they can choose more easily from a wider variety of guns at gun shows from private sellers.
Oh wow, you can't really argue so hard against guns and not know what the hell you are talking about. I'm sure most of the following posts told you that what you said is called a Straw Purchase and is very much ILLEGAL.






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Meauxjeaux
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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Rex (Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:17 p.m. to TheDoc)
How many aspects do you need?

The loophole is that somebody at a gun show who sees a gun he wants but doesn't want to submit to an instant background check can have his friend buy it there for him. The loophole is that criminals know that they can choose more easily from a wider variety of guns at gun shows from private sellers.


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The Doc 7:06pm quote:
You couldn't have whiffed on this any worse if you'd intentionally tried to give the wrongest answer possible.


he won't return to this thread now




Currently 12:27am the next day.

Still no Rex.

Typical.






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braindeadboxer
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


Rex knows he doesn't know what he is talking about. I doubt he's made a decent point at any point in time on this board. It's hard to believe that people can be as willfully ignorant as he is.





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Aubie Spr96
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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The loophole is that somebody at a gun show who sees a gun he wants but doesn't want to submit to an instant background check can have his friend buy it there for him. The loophole is that criminals know that they can choose more easily from a wider variety of guns at gun shows from private sellers.



This was only worth replying to because it's so stupid.






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TheDoc
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


There is no loophole.

That is a fact.

There is nothing different about buying a gun at a gun show with a background check and selling it to someone and buying a gun at academy w a back ground check and selling it to someone.

Both instances have laws against buying weapons for people with felonies/can't get through back ground checks.

But that doesn't jive with the media saying ignorantly:

"WE NEED TO CLOSE THE GUN SHOW LOOP HOLE!!!"

And the viewers parroting those ignorant statements.






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Homme Formidable
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


Not a loophole.
Not an issue to a person with a common sense level above a bag of hair.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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You are out of your depth on this topic. There is no shame in that, you just need to educate yourself before participating.

I read that and thought of...



The Operative: You know, in certain ‘older’ civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as you have, they would throw themselves on their swords.
Dr. Mathias: Well, unfortunately, I forgot to bring a sword.
Dr. Mathias: [as the Operative pulls out his sword] I would put that down right now if I were you.
The Operative: Would you be killed in your sleep, like an ailing pet?
Fight ensues. Dr. Mathias attempts escape. The Operative paralyzes him and then places the sword so he can fall on it. After he falls on the sword, before he dies.
The Operative: This is a good death. There’s no shame in this. In a man’s death, a man who has done fine works.






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USMCTiger03
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Rex is fricking stupid and has intercourse with his dog.







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Meauxjeaux
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re: There is no such thing as a 'gunshow loophole'


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There is no loophole.

That is a fact.


I found another loophole!

It's called the kitchen table loophole. Not quite as scary sounding as that other fraud, but this one is definitely a potential problem.






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