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navy 
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:42 pm to Me)
Maybe the defense wanted to make damn sure this year that no one would accuse the Saints of continuing the P4P bounty system ... because you gotta try to tackle that poorly. 
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retooc 
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
1246 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:45 pm to TigerBait1127)
The perception of your fanbase..not you directly fella.
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Patrick O Rly 
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:47 pm to retooc)
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All anyone has said is move on accept some responsiblity.
I won't accept responsibility for accusations that have no factual basis. What we were accused of did not match up with the evidence that was produce. It's really as simple as that.
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LSUSkip 
LSU Fan
Walker,LA
Member since Jul 2012
787 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:48 pm to TigerBait1127)
I think the team themselves cost themselves a superbowl. It wasn't for lack of effort, just mishaps in execution. Would theyes have been there with CSP on the sidelines? Probably not most of them, but that doesn't guarantee us a super bowl either.
I do think that it's made us better for the next few seasons though. What coach in the history of the game has taken a year off of football knowing they were coming back to coach the same team they left? That's 20 weeks of different points of view you just cant get with a coach on the sidelines and in the office every week. CSP has a plan and I'm anxious to see it.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jun 2005
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:49 pm to retooc)
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The perception of your fanbase..not you directly fella.
and a falcons fan trolling a saints fan with inaccurate statements and a shitty attitude does what for the perception of the dirty bird fanbase?
From the way reddit's opinion of the Saints has taken a 180 since the news first broke, i think we're doing ok
This post was edited on 1/28 at 12:51 pm
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:51 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Continue to point fingers and cry. Continue to blame Goodell. Continue the what ifs.
And fans of other teams will continue to laugh at those childlike responses.
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:52 pm to TigerBait1127)
This was never a troll. Sorry you think that.
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TigerBait1127
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:54 pm to retooc)
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Continue to point fingers and cry. Continue to blame Goodell. Continue the what ifs.
And fans of other teams will continue to laugh at those childlike responses.
eh, i think the saints fanbase is pretty well respected around the league for being passionate, rowdy, and loud. What fans will laugh about is having tickets available the day of a playoff game.
the guy who started this thread (and posts shite like this a lot) doesn't agree with most saints fans on the bounty situation
This post was edited on 1/28 at 12:56 pm
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
1246 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:57 pm to TigerBait1127)
The OP has it right.
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Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
26169 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:58 pm to retooc)
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Continue to point fingers and cry. Continue to blame Goodell. Continue the what ifs.
And fans of other teams will continue to laugh at those childlike responses.
You know you're losing the argument when this is the substance of your post.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
Memphis, TN
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:58 pm to retooc)
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The OP has it right.
you realize why that goes against the entire argument you are making towards us?
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Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:02 pm to retooc)
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The OP has it right.
I didn't realize you could be right while asking a question.
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
1246 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:03 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Losing the argument? Substance of post?
Are you suggesting you have not blamed Goodell for your season? Are you suggesting finger pointing is not childlike?
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
1246 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:08 pm to TigerBait1127)
I take the OP as .. sure Saints fans can be mad but this team stunk.
My position is blaming Goodell for your season is crazy. I honestly thought it might fuel the team to great things (that did not happen) and I'm sure many of you did too.
The team made mistakes and paid a severe price. Let it go man.
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TigerBait1127
New Orleans Saints Fan
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:11 pm to retooc)
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My position is blaming Goodell for your season is crazy.
it is crazy not to think that losing one of the best, well respected coaches in the NFL did not impact this team.
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The team made mistakes and paid a severe price. Let it go man.
what mistakes were those? you realize posting the same tired shite over and over again doesn't make it correct? You brought up the "video" earlier, what evidence is there of our "mistakes" and what do you mean by "mistakes"?
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Sorrento Muddbugs
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
577 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:12 pm to Snakebucket)
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I understand the disappointment, anger, even rage at the Commish, but really, with this historically awful defense, can anyone lay out a coherent argument for the 2012 Saints, intact, without NFL sanctions, as a SB contender?
The Saints have been a playoff contender the last 3 years. They were NFC south Champs in 2011 and coming off a 13 win season last year, winning 9 games in row at one point. Why wouldn't they be a SB contender, because of Tracy Porter and Robert Meachum leaving?
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Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:12 pm to retooc)
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Are you suggesting you have not blamed Goodell for your season? Are you suggesting finger pointing is not childlike?
I blame the loss of our head coach and the enormous amount of distractions and stress it put on our team for the poor season, as well as some talent deficiencies on defense.
I don't blame Goodell for the later, but I do blame him for the former, BECAUSE what he accused the Saints of doing was not backed up by the evidence that was produced. How can you levy such harsh penalties and not back up your claims? His two star witnesses had conflicting testimonies, and it's very telling that the players suspensions were completely vacated, all the while they were contending the NFL's case was rock solid.
So if it's childlike to expect proof of wrong doing when my head coach and two draft picks were taking away, then call me childish. I know the details of this whole story MUCH more than you. If this is the road you wanna go down, by all means, let's take a walk. You could just say "I'm sorry, I was just talking out of my ass" and be done with it.
This post was edited on 1/28 at 1:13 pm
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BarbeTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Jan 2012
3407 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:13 pm to retooc)
Falcon fans ruin every thread they enter
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retooc
Georgia Fan
Chicago
Member since Sep 2012
1246 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:13 pm to TigerBait1127)
Impact, sure. Be all end all, no.
Same tired shite .. pot meet kettle.
Had your fans response to the OP not been the same tired shite I would be on the msb talking about something else.
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navy
Navy Fan
Bannedeville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
3424 posts
| re: Does anyone here honestly think Goodell Cost us a Superbowl? (Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:14 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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I won't accept responsibility for accusations that have no factual basis. What we were accused of did not match up with the evidence that was produce. It's really as simple as that.
Equally simple is that it's done and over with and what's done is done. Time to move on.
Coach Payton is back. All good now. No more excuses. Window will not be open forever.
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