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Those crazy abortion whackos are still around? Who cares?





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Anyone want to back up these "hundreds of thousands" and "500k+" claims. I'd really like it without an estimate from a pro-life website.





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Anyone want to back up these "hundreds of thousands" and "500k+" claims. I'd really like it without an estimate from a pro-life website.


The National Park Service estimates Washington Mall crowds based on photographic images and some algorithm they use about how many people it takes to fill up a certain amount of space. I'm sure their estimate for this march is out there, but I'm not interested enough to look it up.






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Anyone want to back up these "hundreds of thousands" and "500k+" claims



My source for the estimate is on DC's metro council.


And it gets 400k+ every year, so I'm not sure why you're not believing it this year.



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And it gets 400k+ every year, so I'm not sure why you're not believing it this year.



I've never even looked at it. People are just spouting it off as if its fact, so I'd like to see the data.

It's rather impressive, if true.






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It's Over. Abortion will remain legal in this country...and there is nothing you can do about it.



Why does that make you happy? Do you believe indiscriminate abortion on demand is a good thing? Are you familiar with the late term / partial birth abortion procedure?

Serious questions - no troll on my part.




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TN Bhoy
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Serious questions



I'll answer for him:

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Why does that make you happy?



Because he hates morality.

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Do you believe indiscriminate abortion on demand is a good thing?


Yes, and they should be mandatory on all low-income, religious, or immigrant peoples.

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Are you familiar with the late term / partial birth abortion procedure?



Yes, they're awesome.






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The fact that only 1000 people showed for a gun control protest in a very liberal area, compared to tens of thousands for a pro life march, is very telling to what the majority of people in this nation want. IMO

What we see on the news and what is reality are 2 totally different things.






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The fact that only 1000 people showed for a gun control protest in a very liberal area, compared to hundreds of thousands for a pro life march, is very telling to what the majority of people in this nation want. IMO



TBF, the gun protest was a local thing while the MFL is national.






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Anyone want to back up these "hundreds of thousands" and "500k+" claims. I'd really like it without an estimate from a pro-life website.


Perhaps the mainstream media will look into the comparison of attendance at these two events and analyze the implications with a factual and unbiased eye........






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the gun protest was a local thing while the MFL is national.


I understand that... but you would think a gun protest with emotions high would garner more than 1000 people in an area with a large amount of liberals and millions of people.






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It is all about the narrative. Plain and simple.





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It's rather impressive, if true.

And newsworthy.






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The National Park Service estimates Washington Mall crowds based on photographic images and some algorithm they use about how many people it takes to fill up a certain amount of space


Actually they haven't issued any estimates since 1995 because groups threatened to sue them.






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Actually they haven't issued any estimates since 1995 because groups threatened to sue them.


I read that in a Russian accent, you sly dog.






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My source for the estimate is on DC's metro council.


And it gets 400k+ every year, so I'm not sure why you're not believing it this year.


Someone on the DC metro (do you mean city council, or do you mean someone on the transit system's metro board?) council doesn't know how to estimate crowd sizes better then anyone else. I am sure they have claimed 400,000 for years, but it doesn't mean those estimates were correct either.

I looked into it and found lots of people before the event predicting 500,000 based on who knows what, but neither the park service nor DC police estimates crowd size.

Lets look at this logically, let say each person took up a space 3X3. Which frankly if you marching is not that much space as that is about a foot in front and a foot in back of you, and 6 inches on each side. Try walking with someone a foot in front of you, it is really hard.

That gives us 9 sq feet per person. If there is a half million people, that gives us 4.5 million square feet for all of the marchers. I'll be generous and say constitution avenue is 100 feet wide (based on the aerial view of google maps it looks closer to 75). That means your march would be 8.53 miles long full of people.

Now according to this, LINK the march route is 1.1 mile long. Now granted everyone wasn't necessarily on the march route at the same time, but where there really 7 times as many waiting to start as were marching the entire length of the route?. IN order to get 8.5 miles, you would have to do the march route, go past the supreme court to Independence Ave, go all the way back down to the Lincoln Memorial, cross back to Constitution, go all the way back past the Capital again, go back down 1st to Independence again and continue until you were even with the Washington Monument (I used LINK this for the mileage). 1.5 laps around the entire mall using independence and constitution.

Another way to look at is, starting from the rally site, walking about .2 miles short of the beltway heading North.

Only if these routes were completely filled with people packed pretty close together think about like it is when you are leaving a football game, would you have half a million people.

Anytime you here a crowd size estimate you should divide it by 3. It wouldn't shock me if the inauguration only had .5 million. Very few things really get crowds that big, people just base their estimates on the incorrect estimates they have heard in the past.






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Someone on the DC metro (do you mean city council, or do you mean someone on the transit system's metro board?) council doesn't know how to estimate crowd sizes better then anyone else. I am sure they have claimed 400,000 for years, but it doesn't mean those estimates were correct either.

I looked into it and found lots of people before the event predicting 500,000 based on who knows what, but neither the park service nor DC police estimates crowd size.

Lets look at this logically, let say each person took up a space 3X3. Which frankly if you marching is not that much space as that is about a foot in front and a foot in back of you, and 6 inches on each side. Try walking with someone a foot in front of you, it is really hard.

That gives us 9 sq feet per person. If there is a half million people, that gives us 4.5 million square feet for all of the marchers. I'll be generous and say constitution avenue is 100 feet wide (based on the aerial view of google maps it looks closer to 75). That means your march would be 8.53 miles long full of people.

Now according to this, LINK the march route is 1.1 mile long. Now granted everyone wasn't necessarily on the march route at the same time, but where there really 7 times as many waiting to start as were marching the entire length of the route?. IN order to get 8.5 miles, you would have to do the march route, go past the supreme court to Independence Ave, go all the way back down to the Lincoln Memorial, cross back to Constitution, go all the way back past the Capital again, go back down 1st to Independence again and continue until you were even with the Washington Monument (I used LINK this for the mileage). 1.5 laps around the entire mall using independence and constitution.

Another way to look at is, starting from the rally site, walking about .2 miles short of the beltway heading North.

Only if these routes were completely filled with people packed pretty close together think about like it is when you are leaving a football game, would you have half a million people.

Anytime you here a crowd size estimate you should divide it by 3. It wouldn't shock me if the inauguration only had .5 million. Very few things really get crowds that big, people just base their estimates on the incorrect estimates they have heard in the past.





More otto BS

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Only if these routes were completely filled with people packed pretty close together think about like it is when you are leaving a football game, would you have half a million people.


This is what it's like. They even stagger the actual March over an hour so that, even though the actual walking starts at about 1-1:30, people are still reaching the USSC at 3:00.



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TN Bhoy, since you made it a point to show the same magazine story over and over from 3 years ago, from a magazine that's no longer in print, I figured you're very concerned with the headline so here's the gist of the article

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Instead of painting a sign and taking to the streets, the modern feminist is probably discussing her views on a blog or in a chat room, Maddux says. “I don’t want to frame young women as lazy, but they don’t have any reason to believe that it matters if they go out and protest. Instead, they talk about their positions to friends and neighbors.”


Put away your tin foil hat. The magazine that's no longer in print is not out to smear you.






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Instead of painting a sign and taking to the streets, the modern feminist is probably discussing her views on a blog or in a chat room, Maddux says. “I don’t want to frame young women as lazy, but they don’t have any reason to believe that it matters if they go out and protest. Instead, they talk about their positions to friends and neighbors.”





Except that the March is probably about 70% young people, and about 60% of that is young women, the quote you posted is B.S.

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Put away your tin foil hat. The magazine that's no longer in print is not out to smear you.





It was definitely out to smear, and they (the media in general) continue to film/take pictures of the 5-10 Moloch worshipers instead of the March itself. For example, at the USSC itself, there are 15 media vans and cameras, all aimed at the ringed in Moloch worshipers. The only media aimed at the March itself is EWTN. You don't see many (if any) pro-gun pictures from their stories on the gun control rally, do you?



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