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re: Bryan Singer still not seeing how miscast the X-franchise was

Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:30 am to
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Well Claremont is not exactly source material.

1. the original 5 were not written by Claremont
2.Grant Morrison had a good run.
3.Whedon had a GREAT run
4.Hickman had fantastic run as well.

No, but the book didn't sell and what we think of as "the X-Men" didn't happen until Claremont re-cast it with his all-new, all-different international lineup. He wrote the book for about 20 years. As soon as he stopped writing, I stopped collecting. Now, I know the kids will like their era, and that's fine, but I'm just saying for me... Claremont IS the X-Men.

Given that the movies have used primarily his vision of the characters, in his universe, and his stories... Hollywood largely agrees. Claremont made the X-Men what they are. They are not the iconic figures they are if he doesn't take over the book, they would be on the same level as the Guardians of the Galaxy or the Defenders.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36102 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:00 am to
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they would be on the same level as the Guardians of the Galaxy or the Defenders.


That's a lot of speculation.

Most of the Kirby/Lee/Ditko creations had deep lulls in their careers but were given a huge boost by new creators. If Claremont and Cockrum hadn't taken up the X-Men then someone else would've. It's a fact that the NEW X-Men as we know them wouldn't exist with out Claremont, Cockru, and Wein, but I doubt that a Kirby and Lee Silver Age Marvel team wouldn't have been revitalized by some other creative team. Just too many great characters and villains in that franchise to let go to waste.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Given that the movies have used primarily his vision of the characters, in his universe, and his stories... Hollywood largely agrees. Claremont made the X-Men what they are. They are not the iconic figures they are if he doesn't take over the book, they would be on the same level as the Guardians of the Galaxy or the Defenders.




I love Claremont for the most part and quite frankly his version was status quo for the X-Men for a long time, but we are coming onto 15 years (and looks to be going strong) with of the Morrison/Whedon construction of X-Men. Once has been a long journey for Cyclops has completely changed the entire focus of the series, which it should be-he is the lead, the heir apparent and now working with his mentors rival it more interesting than anything Claremont did, IMO.
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