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re: Louisiana High School Football will split Public/Private. **Edited with Yes/No**
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:25 am to CourseyCorridor
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:25 am to CourseyCorridor
quote:
You really don't get that "the" state championship will be the one with the selects.
Tell me this, how is the regular champ going to be "the" state champ if all the defending champs are on the select side? Please answer that.
So when 5A champs are listed, its gonna say
quote:
2008 Destrehan 14, West Monroe 3
2009 West Monroe 30, Rummel 0
2010 Acadiana 21, West Monroe 14
2011 West Monroe 20, Carencro 13
2012 Rummel 35, Barbe 14
2013 West Monroe
2014 Carencro and so on and so on
Same for 4A, same for 3A, 2A, and 1A
The select trophy will say
2009 n/a
2010 n/a
2011 n/a
2012 n/a
2013 John Curtis
2014 Evangel and so on and so on
Do you get which will be seen as more historic, prestigious, sought after?
McCarron may win the Peyton Manning all-American QB award (I made that up), but Manziel will be the one talked about for years to come, because there is a tradition already built in to the Heisman.
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Posted on 2/3/13 at 11:18 am to League Champs
I think it will be more like:
LSU BCS Champ
USC AP Champ
And nobody really wins
LSU BCS Champ
USC AP Champ
And nobody really wins
Posted on 2/3/13 at 12:48 pm to League Champs
Of course it will. But I think for most outlets, it will read like this:
Superdome Clasic
Select Division
Division I: St. Augustine 28, Karr 21
Division II: Curtis, 24, Evangel 21
Divison III: Ouachita Christian 20,Calvary 19
Regular Division
Class 5A: West Monroe 42, Barbe 35
Class 4A: Neville, unopposed...
etc, etc.
I mean, isn't the select division better than the regular division? Isn't that why it's called "select?" Isn't the reasoning behind the creation of the select division that the other schools can't compete with them?
The non-selects made themselves the I-AA of high school football and the select division is the BCS.
Superdome Clasic
Select Division
Division I: St. Augustine 28, Karr 21
Division II: Curtis, 24, Evangel 21
Divison III: Ouachita Christian 20,Calvary 19
Regular Division
Class 5A: West Monroe 42, Barbe 35
Class 4A: Neville, unopposed...
etc, etc.
I mean, isn't the select division better than the regular division? Isn't that why it's called "select?" Isn't the reasoning behind the creation of the select division that the other schools can't compete with them?
The non-selects made themselves the I-AA of high school football and the select division is the BCS.
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 2/3/13 at 1:27 pm to League Champs
Remember how you said public schools can't do the things that private schools do with their player development systems? As this story illustrates, that's utter nonsense:
LINK
The issue is, a lot of public schools don't want to invest (and not necessarily monetarily) in what it takes to be good at something. They want mediocre effort to be rewarded in the same way excellence is rewarded.
It's not just football or athletics, it's everything a lot of our public schools do. The emphasis is doing enough to meet a minimal standard, as opposed to thriving to be the best.
But at schools that "get it," public or private, excellence is achieved. It just so happens that, in a lot of cases, people who are interested in achieving excellence has found they need to achieve it at a private school because the local public schools systemically don't allow it to happen.
In terms of football, you have to have enough coaches. You have to have multiple sub-varsity teams that are getting quality reps at practice and quality game time. You have to have more than one or two coaches at the middle schools and the middle schoolers need to be learning the game in a way where it's not being taught at a remedial level during freshman football. You have to have facilities.
Etc., etc.
And the public schools are perfectly capable of having all this. Many don't and instead they blame the private schools for having it.
The problem is, Winnfield can do all this but still not win because EBR schools can't get their act together, so anybody in BR who has ambition for their kids' athletic future will probably send their kids to private school, most of which play in 1A, 2A or 3A against mostly small town, public schools.
That's the only part that isn't fair in this whole deal.
LINK
The issue is, a lot of public schools don't want to invest (and not necessarily monetarily) in what it takes to be good at something. They want mediocre effort to be rewarded in the same way excellence is rewarded.
It's not just football or athletics, it's everything a lot of our public schools do. The emphasis is doing enough to meet a minimal standard, as opposed to thriving to be the best.
But at schools that "get it," public or private, excellence is achieved. It just so happens that, in a lot of cases, people who are interested in achieving excellence has found they need to achieve it at a private school because the local public schools systemically don't allow it to happen.
In terms of football, you have to have enough coaches. You have to have multiple sub-varsity teams that are getting quality reps at practice and quality game time. You have to have more than one or two coaches at the middle schools and the middle schoolers need to be learning the game in a way where it's not being taught at a remedial level during freshman football. You have to have facilities.
Etc., etc.
And the public schools are perfectly capable of having all this. Many don't and instead they blame the private schools for having it.
The problem is, Winnfield can do all this but still not win because EBR schools can't get their act together, so anybody in BR who has ambition for their kids' athletic future will probably send their kids to private school, most of which play in 1A, 2A or 3A against mostly small town, public schools.
That's the only part that isn't fair in this whole deal.
Posted on 2/3/13 at 4:23 pm to League Champs
quote:
Same for 4A, same for 3A, 2A, and 1A
The select trophy will say
2009 n/a
2010 n/a
2011 n/a
2012 n/a
2013 John Curtis
2014 Evangel and so on and so on
Do you get which will be seen as more historic, prestigious, sought after?
Come on now, you really think its less prestigious because its the first year to have a select division? Everyone is going to know where the best competition is.
I don't remember who said it, but in this thread, they labelled the two divisions competitive and non-competitive. Who are the schools voting to play everyone...? the competitive. Who are the schools voting to not play everyone...? the non competitive.
History and prestige will be seen in both divisions but more so on the side of the competitives.
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