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deltaland  Mississippi St. Fan Member since Mar 2011 15405 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/23/13 at 11:02 pm to DriveByBBQ)
KJ has to have the worst case of little man syndrome on the entire planet.
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TigerPride10  Columbia Fan Seoul, Korea Member since Jul 2007 8988 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/23/13 at 11:11 pm to Roaad)
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AP/Reuters is picky about what they report from that region.
I work here and I deal with it on a daily basis. I'd love to know what daily "border skirmishes" you're referring to that can compare to an artillery bombardment.
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TigerPride10  Columbia Fan Seoul, Korea Member since Jul 2007 8988 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 1:56 am to deltaland)
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KJ has to have the worst case of little man syndrome on the entire planet.
Jong-un is by no means a "little man." 
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nobodytooimportant Member since Oct 2012 657 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:30 am to TigerPride10)
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This will be their third nuclear test, and just yesterday they took their nuclear weapon program off the negotiating table. The implication is that it's not going away anytime soon. To brush such threats off is unwise, my friend. At the very least, it calls for new attention to be paid to East Asia instead of dicking around in the Middle East.
Of course how long did it take for them to work up the capacity to get to the Philippines? I have been hearing the west coast is 5 years off for about a decade now. Also knowing the general capability of their engineers, I would be shocked if they missile hit anywhere near where they were aiming. Even if it did, it had what a 50 pound "warhead" on it. Talk to me when they can't get their current 1.5 kiloton bombs down to that size, or get their rockets to left a couple of ton warheads.
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nobodytooimportant Member since Oct 2012 657 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:31 am to Roaad)
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Border skirmishes have happened daily.
NO they haven't.
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DownshiftAndFloorIt  LSU Fan The devil dreams on an idle horse Member since Jan 2011 30548 posts
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| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:54 am to TigerPride10)
That's some good shit
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TigerPride10  Columbia Fan Seoul, Korea Member since Jul 2007 8988 posts

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Of course how long did it take for them to work up the capacity to get to the Philippines? I have been hearing the west coast is 5 years off for about a decade now. Also knowing the general capability of their engineers, I would be shocked if they missile hit anywhere near where they were aiming.
Depends on your opinion of when you think they actually began putting emphasis on missile technology, rather than nuclear capability alone. Some will say 20 years, I've been of the opinion that it's been more along the lines of the last 10-7 years, if some projections of their spending are any indication. Regardless, it's still a milestone for them and it proves that they are more determined and capable than ever.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50483 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 7:32 am to TigerPride10)
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I work here and I deal with it on a daily basis. I'd love to know what daily "border skirmishes" you're referring to
I was exaggerating the daily part, to mean they happen plenty.
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that can compare to an artillery bombardment.
None that I know of, NK accuses SK of shite all the time, but their media is not reliable.
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Tiger n Miami AU83  Auburn Fan Miami Member since Oct 2007 25200 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:19 am to TigerPride10)
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Their last missile nearly reached the Philippines. It's estimated that, within 5 years, they will have the capability to hit the west coast of the United States.
They actually have the capabilty to launch a strike at a distance of 6,000 miles with about a 1,000lb payload. That is enough to hit the U.S. It is not currently believed they have a nuclear warhead small enough to put on a missle that could hit the U.S., but they probably will soon. Their ability to acurately target the missle appears to be missing, but they could hit the U.S. now. Our military says we have the capability to intercept a missle launched from NK though.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55430 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:33 am to Roaad)
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so they have to yell some extreme bull shite to get attention.
There M.O. is to threaten the US, then we send someone to talk to them. Then they back down when we give them $100 Billion.
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PsychTiger  LSU Fan Land Mass Member since Jul 2004 15910 posts
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| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:54 am to DriveByBBQ)
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North Korea said Thursday that it plans to carry out a "high-level nuclear test" and further long-range rocket launches
It will never be ready in time.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50483 posts

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They actually have the capabilty to launch a strike at a distance of 6,000 miles with about a 1,000lb payload.
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That is enough to hit the U.S.
It would be, were it accurate. Fact is, we accept the most extreme estimates from their news services, because it helps to scare the public. North Korea is a convenient boogey man to the ignorant masses.
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TrueTiger  LSU Fan Republic of West Florida Member since Sep 2004 2607 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:36 am to deltaland)
NORKs, what a pathetic bunch in a pathetic state. I would rather live in Haiti.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50483 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 10:41 am to TrueTiger)
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I would rather live in Haiti.
Who wouldn't?
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Brosef Stalin  LSU Fan Member since Dec 2011 3925 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:21 am to Roaad)
I don't think China will ever let them do anything too stupid. They don't want the US military in their backyard.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55430 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:32 am to TrueTiger)
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I would rather live in Haiti.
Haiti doesn't have the most exclusive golf course in the world like North Korea has.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50483 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:34 am to Brosef Stalin)
I doubt their military and nuclear capabilities are anything close to what is being reported. I remember what we knew about their mil tech while I was in the Navy, and what was reported were not even close to each other. We rely HEAVILY on their media reports. Their state-owned media reports.
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ZereauxSum  LSU Fan Atlanta, GA Member since Nov 2008 5769 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 11:36 am to Brosef Stalin)
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I don't think China will ever let them do anything too stupid. They don't want the US military in their backyard.
I'd like to believe this, but Yeongyeong island makes me skeptical of China's willingness to reign the DPRK in. I actually don't think China could GAF less about what happens as long as it doesn't result in millions of starving, brainwashed refugees running north across the border.
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nobodytooimportant Member since Oct 2012 657 posts

| re: N. Korea missile tests... (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:07 pm to TigerPride10)
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Depends on your opinion of when you think they actually began putting emphasis on missile technology, rather than nuclear capability alone. Some will say 20 years, I've been of the opinion that it's been more along the lines of the last 10-7 years, if some projections of their spending are any indication
I'm of the opposite opinion, I feel they have been working seriously on their missile technology a lot longer than their nuclear weapons. It appeared to me that they had swung a deal with the Pakistanis, Khan et al would do the nuclear work and the DPRK would do the delivery system. From the perspective of the North, missiles were a lot easier to sell to other countries as they could do so longer without the world coming down on them. After the fall of the Soviets, I think their biggest concern was finding ways to acquire money, and missiles provided such a way. While I don't think their scientists are top notch, they are probably okay. To me a bigger issue is their ability to manufacture items to the level of accuracy required for such complicated items. I don't think they have it.
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Roaad  LSU Fan Bushrod Owns Member since Aug 2006 50483 posts

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Now that Bush took out Saddam. . .we need a nation to play Boogey Man to drum up fear, and thus millitary action/spending support.
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