quote:
Lastly, " guy is a questionable kicker, not impressed at all " isn't much of a case to make against Hartley. Try harder. I'd point out in response that Hartley is #8 alltime in FG conversion %. That's better than Matt Bryant, Connor Barth, Gostkowski, Vinatieri, etc. For his career he is 12 of 14 40-49yds and 5 of 7 from 50+yds. Not impressive enough for you?

he has a career 86% from under 40 yards. Personally, I'm more worried about those "easy" kicks he should be making that have costed us games. for comparison sake:
matt bryant has a 92.6% from under 40
connor barth has a 92.9%
gostkowski has a 90.5%
vinatieri has a 89.9%
janikowski has a 94.1%
jay feely has a 90.3%
akers has a 93.2%
kasay has a 93.7%
carney has a 90.8%

I'm glad he can make a good bit of those longer kicks because those are harder, but correct me if I'm wrong in saying those "easy" kicks have caused us to get more "L" in the column than those long kicks have given us a "W".

This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 10:51 am

2 ...

Report Post

Posted by blueslover

deeper than deep south

Member since Sep 2007

22792 posts

Posted on 1/23/13 at 11:11 am to htran90

quote:
those "easy" kicks have caused us to get more "L" in the column than those long kicks have given us a "W".

Now you're starting to make a case. Certainly something to watch. I dunno about the games won or lost issue. Research that and let us know.

Bottom line he is under contract for 3 more years. They might bring in someone to push him again (like Kasay) but it is his job to lose. He would have to slump seriously to get on the hot seat.

1 ...

Report Post

Posted by Midget Death Squad

Meme Magic

Member since Oct 2008

24700 posts

Posted on 1/23/13 at 12:14 pm to htran90

quote:
Personally, I'm more worried about those "easy" kicks he should be making that have costed us games

This here is the problem. I don't care how good or bad he is at long range; it's the easy kicks that are the problem. Hartley has major issues with the short kicks, and this is something we can't rely on. He even doinks and near misses XP's. Unacceptable.

I have no problem with drafting kickers personally. A couple years ago this board was lit up with people bitching about us drafting Morstead with (I believe) a fifth, and look how much he has helped us. I liked the pick then, and I'd like a K with a late rounder here if it's one that is projected to be good/great.

As for whom to draft, I have no clue. I barely followed college this year outside of LSU and ND, so I really don't know shite about kickers