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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:04 pm to Colonel Toddy)
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Colonel Toddy
These things are cyclic, however. Hopefully, the principles of the republican party attract voters in the near future. All it takes is a great leader. The republicans don't have one right now. The democrats do.
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Purple Spoon
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
The political pendulum swings back and forth. 4 years of Carter 12 years of Reagan / Bush 41. 8 years Clinton 8 years of Bush 43 8 years Obama.
That being said Repubs need a leader to emerge. A TRUE candidate.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:15 pm to Purple Spoon)
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That being said Repubs need a leader to emerge. A TRUE candidate.
I see no one.
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LSUgusto 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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I see no one.
I like Rand Paul, but I have no idea about his capability as an executive. He's a privileged son that has grown up around the game and knows the lingo. If he could demonstrate that his approach actually works, then he's got a ton of potential.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:23 pm to LSUgusto)
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Rand Paul
He would lose by 20% points.
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cigsmcgee 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:25 pm to LSUgusto)
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I like Rand Paul, but I have no idea about his capability as an executive.
i know many under-30 republicans who really like the guy, and those older and more establishment-aged cant stand him. that seems to be the republican party in a nutshell.
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BigJim
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:46 pm to cigsmcgee)
Great googly moogly.
Repubs gain seats in 2014.
Get the prez in 2016
Please bookmark or save or whatever.
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RTR America 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:18 am to BigJim)
GOP is fine. Romney is a CEO and not a politician. There are many things you can look at for why he lost, but I don't think it is GOP related (besides a poorly run campaign). Be the party of lower taxes and limited government and they should be fine. I prefer Rand Paul, but I think Rubio has the most realistic chance at winning.
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deltaland 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:25 am to Colonel Toddy)
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You're acting like Hispanics can't be mobilized to vote. I think they can.
What makes you think Hispanic culture will follow Dems like the Black culture did.
The Black culture follows Dems because of the Civil Rights movement.
Hispanics are historically extremely religious, hard working, and pro gun. Their mindset is more in tune with republican views. Bush was able to get a large percentage of Latino vote.
Republicans can mobilize a latino vote just like Dems could. IMO we would need to change a view on Immigration and get a guy like Rubio involved with the hispanic group.
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Navytiger74
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:55 am to weagle99)
The "demise" of the republican party is overblown. These things are truly cyclical.
I will say that changes are definitely going to have to come if the GOP is to remain competitive in national races. Thankfully, that change is all but inevitable at this point. Older folks are going die, retire, etc., and younger conservatives have much more pragmatic views on governance.
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Layabout 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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What parts of states tend to be liberal, layabout?
Urban areas, of course. Are you suggesting that the votes of people in urban areas should count for less, say three-fifths?
This post was edited on 1/21 at 7:22 am
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Tchefuncte Tiger 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:20 am to weagle99)
Yes. Anytime a political party loses an important election, the talking head talk about the demise of that party. It all runs in cycles. However, if Bobby Jindal is the best the Republican Party can do, then they're screwed.
This post was edited on 1/21 at 10:22 am
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SM6
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:30 am to weagle99)
Demise?!?! LOL NO.
Is it lessening in popularity? Absolutely. The party needs to refine and rebrand its message. Too many great positions (smaller government, less taxes, small business growth) are being overshadowed by emphasizing things like gay marriage bans, absolute abortion bans (hell the Republican party nominated a candidate who said a woman can prevent pregnancy by rape on her own!!) and kicking all the immigrants out. All these stances push away the moderate voter which is now the swing constituency.
The party needs to sell itself as the party of inclusion and opportunity, not exclusion.
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palm springs tiger
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:07 pm to thekingfish225)
Actually, Obama won because a small majority of Americans refuse to face facts, instead buying into the Fraud's BS.
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weagle99
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:15 pm to SM6)
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The party needs to sell itself as the party of inclusion and opportunity, not exclusion
Would you say the Democrat party is the party of inclusion?
Do the Democrats welcome pro-life voters?
Gun rights supporters?
People who believe in traditional marriage?
Right to work supporters?
Witness their convention where it was a debate to even include God, which is an important concept to most Americans.
Inclusion? Hardly.
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Tchefuncte Tiger
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:34 pm to weagle99)
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Would you say the Democrat party is the party of inclusion?
Do the Democrats welcome pro-life voters?
Gun rights supporters?
People who believe in traditional marriage?
Right to work supporters?
Witness their convention where it was a debate to even include God, which is an important concept to most Americans.
Inclusion? Hardly.
The Democratic Party is the picture of intolerance when it comes to opposing viewpoints.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 3:38 pm to weagle99)
These things are cyclical. How about the Dems' Demise in 2004 following W's reelection?
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Jake88 
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:27 pm to deltaland)
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What makes you think Hispanic culture will follow Dems.
Racism of the left. They can't fathom that Hispanics will move up the income ladder and not remain beholden to the democrats' largesse tossed to the dysfunctional in exchange for votes.
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SCUBABlake
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:43 pm to texashorn)
Veasey also ran a hell of a race and had a much better ground game than Garcia did. Garcia sat on his arse and didn't take it seriously.
As far as the Hispanic answer in Texas... The GOP is throwing a lot of eggs in the George P. basket. He has what it takes, and in just over a month after filing he got 1.2 mil in campaign contributions.
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carbola
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| re: is the Republican Party's demise overblown? (Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:56 pm to RTR America)
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Be the party of lower taxes and limited government and they should be fine.
Only half of this is true sadly. The huge support the Republicans have the patriot act and things of that nature is appalling from a limited government stance. Additionally, if they were truly limited government that wouldn't want federal laws that look into what we do behind closed doors. The Republicans like a bigger defensive budget despite the fact that we outspend the next closet country by 4x the amount. In all honesty, the right likes big government just as much as the left, it just varies on which departments.
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