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MrCarton
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wait till Obama creates the "gun owners tax"...wait, it's coming!


Well, Obama may expand the current taxes on gun ownership but hee certainly did not pioneer the idea.

discriminatory background checks and licensing fees are taxes just the same as what you pay when you buy retail or when you get that fat bonus check.


LSU alum wannabe
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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discriminatory background checks


Define this? Not even trying to pick a fight. Just wondering because I have never heard this phrase uttered recently.


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TrueTiger
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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I have a massive problem with them spending taxpayer money to buy legal guns off the street.


I disagree with your premise.

"Spending taxpayer money", by simply reducing a tax, presumes that all money belongs to the government. Governments have no money but that which they confiscate.

Allowing a substitution of a good for cash merely changes the terms of the confiscation. It does not spend taxpayer money.


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MrCarton
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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Define this? Not even trying to pick a fight. Just wondering because I have never heard this phrase uttered recently


No problem. All background checks discriminate in one way or another. The purpose is to gather information about your past to determine if you are worth the risk in question. So for instance, if you are a convicted felon then you are limited as to which firearms you may purchase. Felons are being discriminated against.

This seems great when you only mention the positive side. How easy would it be to then change the discriminatory criteria and prevent someone with a history of alcoholism, or too many traffic accidents, or a member of an unpopular political party from purchasing a gun? Maybe even a person with a history of certain web searches. If this seems far fetched then look at the current push by all sides for more restrictions on mentally ill patients. How will this be enforced? National database, mandatory psych screening? Those are all intrusions I do not support.

This coupled with the fact that mandatory background check is a presumption of guilt requiring proof of innocence. Which I also disagree with.



ljhog
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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So could I buy AR-15 for $1000

I'll take a dozen please.


dante
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
The last one I bought was less than that. $870


lsuroadie
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
They can have all of my assault weapons...

My frying pans
Kitchen knives
Hunting knives
I guess rope would constitute an assault weapon




Sure...


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Zed
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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I have no problem with a tax credit for those who voluntarily turn in their own fire arms.
I don't have a problem with gun buy back programs, especially if they're just providing tax credits. People that really like their guns and will be responsible about owning them, aren't going to give the government shite. The only guns the government is going to get are going to be guns people don't really want, or guns from people that need quick money, exactly the type of guns that find their way to the black market.


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50Mullets
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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wait till Obama creates the "gun owners tax"...wait, it's coming!


No guns here. Tragic boating accident.


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LSU alum wannabe
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re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns!
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If this seems far fetched then look at the current push by all sides for more restrictions on mentally ill patients. How will this be enforced? National database, mandatory psych screening? Those are all intrusions I do not support


Why don't you support these? Mentally ill people do not need firearms . Especially when talking about certain weapons.


MrCarton
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Paradise Valley, MT
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Why don't you support these? Mentally ill people do not need firearms . Especially when talking about certain weapons


For several reasons. Most simply because I do not believe that the federal government can accurately determine who is mentally capable of owning a firearm. Attempts to prohibit seem to have rate of failure regardless


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ljhog
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The last one I bought was less than that. $870


a Bushmaster or S&W maybe, but not a Colt. and not recently either.


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