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MrCarton 
Alabama Fan
Nashville
Member since Dec 2009
1643 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:50 pm to CptBengal)
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wait till Obama creates the "gun owners tax"...wait, it's coming!
Well, Obama may expand the current taxes on gun ownership but hee certainly did not pioneer the idea.
discriminatory background checks and licensing fees are taxes just the same as what you pay when you buy retail or when you get that fat bonus check.
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LSU alum wannabe 
LSU Fan
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
10394 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:05 pm to MrCarton)
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discriminatory background checks
Define this? Not even trying to pick a fight. Just wondering because I have never heard this phrase uttered recently.
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CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
4899 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 7:07 am to CptBengal)
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TrueTiger
LSU Fan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2004
2489 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 7:26 am to beaverfever)
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I have a massive problem with them spending taxpayer money to buy legal guns off the street.
I disagree with your premise.
"Spending taxpayer money", by simply reducing a tax, presumes that all money belongs to the government. Governments have no money but that which they confiscate.
Allowing a substitution of a good for cash merely changes the terms of the confiscation. It does not spend taxpayer money.
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MrCarton
Alabama Fan
Nashville
Member since Dec 2009
1643 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 7:48 am to LSU alum wannabe)
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Define this? Not even trying to pick a fight. Just wondering because I have never heard this phrase uttered recently
No problem. All background checks discriminate in one way or another. The purpose is to gather information about your past to determine if you are worth the risk in question. So for instance, if you are a convicted felon then you are limited as to which firearms you may purchase. Felons are being discriminated against.
This seems great when you only mention the positive side. How easy would it be to then change the discriminatory criteria and prevent someone with a history of alcoholism, or too many traffic accidents, or a member of an unpopular political party from purchasing a gun? Maybe even a person with a history of certain web searches. If this seems far fetched then look at the current push by all sides for more restrictions on mentally ill patients. How will this be enforced? National database, mandatory psych screening? Those are all intrusions I do not support.
This coupled with the fact that mandatory background check is a presumption of guilt requiring proof of innocence. Which I also disagree with.
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ljhog 
Arkansas Fan
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:01 am to dante)
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So could I buy AR-15 for $1000
I'll take a dozen please.
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dante
LSU Fan
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
2140 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:16 am to ljhog)
The last one I bought was less than that. $870
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lsuroadie
LSU Fan
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
3749 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:51 pm to CptBengal)
They can have all of my assault weapons...
My frying pans
Kitchen knives
Hunting knives
I guess rope would constitute an assault weapon
Sure...
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Zed
Alabama Fan
Member since Feb 2010
5660 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:59 pm to dante)
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I have no problem with a tax credit for those who voluntarily turn in their own fire arms.
I don't have a problem with gun buy back programs, especially if they're just providing tax credits. People that really like their guns and will be responsible about owning them, aren't going to give the government shite. The only guns the government is going to get are going to be guns people don't really want, or guns from people that need quick money, exactly the type of guns that find their way to the black market.
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50Mullets
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
1059 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:16 pm to CptBengal)
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wait till Obama creates the "gun owners tax"...wait, it's coming!
No guns here. Tragic boating accident.
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LSU alum wannabe
LSU Fan
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
10394 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:22 pm to MrCarton)
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If this seems far fetched then look at the current push by all sides for more restrictions on mentally ill patients. How will this be enforced? National database, mandatory psych screening? Those are all intrusions I do not support
Why don't you support these? Mentally ill people do not need firearms . Especially when talking about certain weapons.
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MrCarton
Alabama Fan
Nashville
Member since Dec 2009
1643 posts
| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:37 pm to LSU alum wannabe)
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Why don't you support these? Mentally ill people do not need firearms . Especially when talking about certain weapons
For several reasons. Most simply because I do not believe that the federal government can accurately determine who is mentally capable of owning a firearm. Attempts to prohibit seem to have rate of failure regardless
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ljhog
Arkansas Fan
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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| re: Bill introduced today for tax break to turn in your guns! (Posted on 1/19/13 at 7:51 pm to dante)
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The last one I bought was less than that. $870
a Bushmaster or S&W maybe, but not a Colt. and not recently either.
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