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RichardT 
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:07 am to dos crystal)
Teams that finish is the top 20 in recruiting are for the most part the same teams that finish in the top 20 in the polls.
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Baloo
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:10 am to Tiger Ryno)
We see this in the way that Alabama has won national titles with a bunch of walk ons. Talent is, by far, the most important part of a winning team at any level in any sport.
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Choctaw 
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:10 am to diehardfan)
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Making money is more important than winning to the people running the show at LSU.
well this is stupid...because unless you're winning you're not going to make money. i'm pretty sure they understand this.
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:10 am to dos crystal)
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This is not a fact. this is opinion. Players make coaches. plain and simple. Nick saban, who many hold in high regard around here, would not win a n.c. at vandy. And, he had the same record as shula did the prior year at bama his first year.
The difference is that Saban knows what to do with the talent, Miles doesn't.
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:13 am to diehardfan)
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The difference is that Saban knows what to do with the talent, Miles doesn't.
i know, right? well...except the whole winning thing....but other than that, frick 'em
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FulshearTexasTiger
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:13 am to diehardfan)
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The difference is that Saban knows what to do with the talent, Miles doesn't.
QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!! 
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:18 am to FulshearTexasTiger)
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:19 am to diehardfan)
YOU SKIPPED MY POSTS YOU SUMMANABEESH!
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:20 am to Choctaw)
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i know, right? well...except the whole winning thing....but other than that, frick 'em
It's true. If he doesn't have a real coordinator like Chavis who knows what to do with the talent....he's clueless running option plays with Mettenberger.
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FulshearTexasTiger
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:20 am to diehardfan)
.....and believe me, I'm not a Saban fan!!! Our shortcomings on offensive are sooooo pucking obvious!!!
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:23 am to diehardfan)
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It's true. If he doesn't have a real coordinator like Chavis who knows what to do with the talent....
Miles is the HC...he's in control of the entire team
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he's clueless running option plays with Mettenberger.
what?
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:30 am to Choctaw)
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well this is stupid...because unless you're winning you're not going to make money. i'm pretty sure they understand this.
There's a big difference between 9-4 and 12-2. Both might be winning programs but their revenue streams could be drastically different.
Look at Texas. They were one game above .500 in the Big 12 and made more money than any other program in the country:
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Notre Dame made money even when they were losing.
Hell Arkansas was in the top 10 most profitable programs this year and they were 4-8.
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:37 am to diehardfan)
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There's a big difference between 9-4 and 12-2. Both might be winning programs but their revenue streams could be drastically different.
im not talking about a single season. big money is made by sustaining a winning program.
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They were one game above .500 in the Big 12 and made more money than any other program in the country:
LINK
see above
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Notre Dame made money even when they were losing.
they have one of the largest fanbases and get paid by NBC. they make money on name recognition
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Hell Arkansas was in the top 10 most profitable programs this year and they were 4-8.
see first response
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:37 am to Choctaw)
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Miles is the HC...he's in control of the entire team
He isn't in control of shite on the defensive side of the ball. That's one of the reasons we are successful there.
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:37 am to diehardfan)
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He isn't in control of shite on the defensive side of the ball. That's one of the reasons we are successful there.
ofcourse 
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diehardfan
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:39 am to Choctaw)
Again, if LSU was more concerned with winning than making money....we would see changes. The simple fact is that they are very content. Their inaction confirms this.
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Choctaw
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:41 am to diehardfan)
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Again, if LSU was more concerned with winning than making money....we would see changes.
we have seen changes...several times
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The simple fact is that they are very content. Their inaction confirms this.
LSU doesn't work on your time schedule
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BayouBlitz
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:49 am to Tiger Ryno)
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we do win most of the games we win on Talent aloen and on the quality coaching of our defense....on offense not so much...
Seems like our offfense did just fine against Alabama's legendary defense, and our defense shite the bed.
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Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting
If you look at the top programs over the last 20 years and how they grade in recruiting, you'd see a correlation. In other words, you're wrong.
And if our coaching is so shitty, why do NFL scouts consider LSU players 'pro ready'? LSU has put a lot of first year starters in the NFL.
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dos crystal
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:52 am to diehardfan)
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he difference is that Saban knows what to do with the talent, Miles doesn't.
this is false as well. The difference is, and no one wants to admit this, he's recruited/has better talent than miles/lsu.
he's had a better qb for five years. a better o-line for at least half the time. miles has had better special teams. defenses has been a push.
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moneyg
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| re: All this QB talk...Fact is Coaching is more important than Recruiting (Posted on 1/16/13 at 11:59 am to Tiger Ryno)
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we do win most of the games we win on Talent aloen
LOL
You just shot down your own argument.
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