re: Engagment Ring $

Spend an amount that doesn't hurt you. The 3 months salary thing is stupid. If you have student loans, rent, bills, etc., 3 months salary could really put a hurting on your finances. I got lucky and had free room and board at my parents for 1.5 years after I graduated so I could save enough for a ring and 20% down on a house. I spent more than what most on this board would advise, but it didn't put a strain on my finances, so it wasn't a big deal.

And a girl may not need a fancy ring, but they sure as hell like them. If you are comfortable spending the money, I don't see a problem spending for a nice ring. It's a good feeling to get something really nice for the person you are going to marry. The key is being responsible, don't spend money you can't afford to spend.