Good coaches? Good athletes?

You're gonna get a lot of your opinion refuted. That's all I got for now.

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When A&M's OC left the school their head coach Sumlin was forced to call the plays vs Oklahoma and they still put up 40.

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it's his offense, not the old OC's.

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You constantly see Nick grilling his defensive players,

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not every coach has that style or personality, there are plenty of successful coaches who don't explode on the sidelines

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Spurrier is always talking to his quarterbacks about they see.

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who is the last decent QB Spurrier developed

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I know Mett has requested having his isolation booth, but what good is it if he's not being coached up rather than left alone?

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not sure this even deserves an answer

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I think he's just benefitting from having great athletes.

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Who gets the credit for all these great athletes?

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.......IMO I think he's just benefitting from having great athletes

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So does every CFB coach who wins alot. Chip Kelly, Nick Saban, and Urban Meyer aren't taking 2* athletes and winning alot of games with them. They are benefitting from having great talent.

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It appears that the players seems to go through a regression the longer they stay at LSU. From the quarterback position to even the coveted DL position and everything in between it just seems as though the players are hitting their peaks early

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J. Russell - 2 years under Miles and better when he left
M. Flynn - 3 years under Miles and better when he left
R. Perilloux and Andrew Hatch - careers too short to judge
J. Lee - 5 years under Miles and head and shoulders better when he left
J. Jefferson - hit his peak early on and plateau'd.
Z. Mettenberger - too early to tell, but promising since we did see him improve over the year.

So help me understand where we regressed?

As far as DL, it would be a shorter list of those who regressed at LSU than those that got better, but honestly, I can't think of a single DL player that got worse that actually got playing time.

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I know some will quickly point out that Les has guided us to two NC games, but talent wise who had better talent than LSU?

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2007 - Noone was better. Some were equal probably. None were better and we won the title.

2011 - Alabama was more talented. They had a better OL, WR group, and QB. The defenses were a wash. We dominated everyone else and split the season with Alabama.

That's the two NC seasons, if we ran down the list of all seasons, 2005 - Katrina, 2006 - Auburn game refs, 2008 - alot of teams, 2009 - alot of teams, 2010 - a handful of teams, 2012 - Bama at the start of the season, by the end probably a few teams after all the injuries, suspensions, etc.

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When A&M's OC left the school their head coach Sumlin was forced to call the plays vs Oklahoma and they still put up 40. You constantly see Nick grilling his defensive players, Spurrier is always talking to his quarterbacks about they see. I know Mett has requested having his isolation booth, but what good is it if he's not being coached up rather than left alone?

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Saban and Sumlin aren't over there talking to their QBs either. Spurrier does b/c he was a QB. Miles is on camera coaching up his OL and RB when they miss blocks because that's what he was. The OL doesn't get the airtime that the QB position does and Saban gets his own airplay because people like seeing him go nuts.



Bottom line is good talent and good coaching have to be in play for a program to be able to sustain success the way LSU does. Miles has made mistakes,he will make more. So will Saban and every other HC in CFB. Hell in Bama's last 4 games they had two completely botched coaching decisions that could've cost them the NC. 1st and goal in aTm redzone with Lacy and Yeldon running like beasts and they throw every down and McCarron gets picked and aTm closes out the game. At the end of the first half in the SECCG, Bama is driving and should've at least gotten a FG attempt and instead go into the lockerroom with no points and timeouts left in their pocket. If the game was 30 seconds longer or UGA doesn't do the same dumb thing at the end of the game, it may have been UGA holding up the crystal this year. It happens. Players make mistakes, coaches make mistakes, but every year we have a legitimate shot at a NC and that's all you can ask for from a CFB program these days. Are you set up to have a chance to win it all? Only about 5-10 teams can say yes year in and year out and LSU is one of them.

it's to a point on this board where it's just humorous now and not worth debating over

This is not worth refudiating.

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MO I think he's just benefitting from having great athletes.

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Keep your opinions to yourself...how do you think we get that talent. Some of you don't have a freaking clue as to what it means to be in charge.