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I do. He was a game changer for most of his career. A table setter for the guys that get all the love. Like I said, that part of baseball seems to be under appreciated.

I agree it may be under appreciated, but no way he gets in with only 2700 hits. No MVPs, not batting titles, no championships, only a handful of GG. Only 7 AS. Im not sure what would vault him. Like I said the 3,000 is pretty much all he hangs his hat on.

compare that to the 2B we just mentioned(not Utley, but the other 3) and they have MVPs, double digit AS games/Gold Gloves. In Alomar's case, he battled for batting titles yearly. Kent is the all time HR leader at the position.

they all have these other major superlatives to hang their hat on.

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Posted by BuckToothBilly

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Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:28 pm to Lester Earl

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Like I said the 3,000 is pretty much all he hangs his hat on

Yet, that is about 500 more hits than Ted Williams had in his 19 year career. And it has Biggio sitting 20th ALL TIME in career hits. How the hell does that not qualify as a superlative? Also, have you looked at his 1998 season? Any other year -- he makes MVP. He was top-5 in MVP votes what 3 or 4 times?

BTW - I do not advocate saying Biggio was a better baseball player than Ted Williams. Different ERAs, different game. I just used him as an example because the duration of their careers are very similar. Also - Biggio had 1,100+ BBs in his career. Ted Williams had over 2,200. WHOLY HELL that's a lot of walks!

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