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The future of no-huddle offense in college football.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:21 pm
I sure hope Les Miles understands the same thing that Saban has figured out. Whether we like it or not, the success of no-huddle offenses is here to stay and the SEC-West looks to be ground zero in the SEC. With TAMU, Ole MIss and soon to be Auburn.
No matter what people in Louisiana think of Saban I personally thank him for what he did for LSU, and feel he is the best coach in college football today and maybe when his career ends the best of all time. It is no secret how much Saban does not like the no-huddle, and I think everyone knows it is because it is counter-intuitive to what Saban tries to do on offense by being able to change personnel on every defensive snap. Here is what Saban has said about the no-huddle offense and what he feels is going to happen with it in college football.
"Saban said. But then he continued to say the no-huddle offense will continue to revolutionize football. He noted that in its 29-24 victory on Nov. 10 at Bryant-Denny Stadium, Texas A&M ran eight plays before Alabama’s defense could line up, and those snaps came less than eight seconds after the previous play ended. Eventually, Saban predicted, “There will be no huddle in football – no one will ever get in a huddle. Everybody will be playing fast, unless they do something to say that you’re not going to allow people to do that. When you do that, you take the defensive coaches completely out of the game.”"
I sure hope Les Miles figures this out quicker than the rest of the coaches in the SEC.
No matter what people in Louisiana think of Saban I personally thank him for what he did for LSU, and feel he is the best coach in college football today and maybe when his career ends the best of all time. It is no secret how much Saban does not like the no-huddle, and I think everyone knows it is because it is counter-intuitive to what Saban tries to do on offense by being able to change personnel on every defensive snap. Here is what Saban has said about the no-huddle offense and what he feels is going to happen with it in college football.
"Saban said. But then he continued to say the no-huddle offense will continue to revolutionize football. He noted that in its 29-24 victory on Nov. 10 at Bryant-Denny Stadium, Texas A&M ran eight plays before Alabama’s defense could line up, and those snaps came less than eight seconds after the previous play ended. Eventually, Saban predicted, “There will be no huddle in football – no one will ever get in a huddle. Everybody will be playing fast, unless they do something to say that you’re not going to allow people to do that. When you do that, you take the defensive coaches completely out of the game.”"
I sure hope Les Miles figures this out quicker than the rest of the coaches in the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:25 pm to Dudebro2
auburn is the only team in recent memory who won a bcs title that runs a hurry up spread, and they won more based on the freak at qb than the system.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:29 pm to Geauxld Finger
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auburn is the only team in recent memory who won a bcs title that runs a hurry up spread
To be fair, the team that they beat also ran a quick spread.
So there is some more evidence that you can at least get to the game running it
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:31 pm to Geauxld Finger
I think there is a place for no huddle offense but its success depends on your personnel...
It would also seem to me that the no huddle tactic is predicated on assumed outcomes. If each situation is different than your assumption (such as 2nd and 20 instead of 2nd and 8) then it would seem to throw the no huddle tactic out of sync
It would also seem to me that the no huddle tactic is predicated on assumed outcomes. If each situation is different than your assumption (such as 2nd and 20 instead of 2nd and 8) then it would seem to throw the no huddle tactic out of sync
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:31 pm to Geauxld Finger
You are right, but there were less teams running the no-huddle as more legitimate teams run the no-huddle look for more teams to be in the hunt for a national title. I mean if you are not impressed with what Oregon and TAMU did this year, and hell what Clemson did to us in the bowl game, then there is no convincing you anyway.
If Saban is saying that football is going no-huddle, then I for one will give him the benefit of the doubt and believe him. I think he has proved he knows more about football than every poster on this board, that is for sure.
If Saban is saying that football is going no-huddle, then I for one will give him the benefit of the doubt and believe him. I think he has proved he knows more about football than every poster on this board, that is for sure.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:32 pm to Dudebro2
Saban doesn't really think that's going to happen.
He's posturing.
He's posturing.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:32 pm to Powerman
Saban was trying to justify Johnny Football kicking his arse. Smashmouth beats no huddle every time.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:34 pm to wahoocs
Oh that sounds intelligent, Saban is trying to fool everyone. 
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:34 pm to Dudebro2
Take this to the I love Saban board.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:34 pm to Dudebro2
what did Oregon and A&M do when they ran it against us?
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:36 pm to Dudebro2
"Saban was trying to justify Johnny Football kicking his arse. Smashmouth beats no huddle every time."
Yeah smash-mouth beat the sh*t out of Clemson on December 31st.
Oops my bad, just checked the score again and smash-mouth still lost that game.
Yeah smash-mouth beat the sh*t out of Clemson on December 31st.
Oops my bad, just checked the score again and smash-mouth still lost that game.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:37 pm to Dudebro2
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Saban is trying to fool everyone
You're the only one fooled.
He wants rules in place to eliminate it. He feels like it's destroying the integrity of the game. It's a gimmick.
He mentions "if they don't do something about it" in your quote.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:39 pm to Dudebro2
I think you can prepare for it if you know it is coming.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:40 pm to Dudebro2
Read the quote, Saban didn't say that no-huddle can't be beat. Saban said the no-huddle presents problems and takes the Defensive Coordinator out of the game. Saban said he feels no-huddle is what football is going to. That is obviously because of the problems it presents for defenses. Saban didn't say he liked what is happening, and I think everyone knows he doesn't like it. But he is smart enough to know where football is going and why.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:43 pm to Dudebro2
LSU's defense has done better against the offenses than Saban's.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:49 pm to Dudebro2
Saban eats, sleeps, and lives winning championships. Being on top.
If he thought running no huddle would help him achieve this, a Jack Pardee protege would be his OC. Kelly, Holgorsen, Sumlin, Malzahn all would have passed through his tree.
You go on believing what you do, and I'll sit back and watch it run its course. It doesn't have a place at the big boy table.
The closest to it in the SEC was the Tebow-Newton campaigns, and those were not hurry up. And I don't think you see those guys running around at the next level.
Maybe RG3 and Vince Young, oh, wait....
Teams that get lesser talent at offensive line and defensive positions might find the scheme to their advantage.
But, it will win less championships.
If he thought running no huddle would help him achieve this, a Jack Pardee protege would be his OC. Kelly, Holgorsen, Sumlin, Malzahn all would have passed through his tree.
You go on believing what you do, and I'll sit back and watch it run its course. It doesn't have a place at the big boy table.
The closest to it in the SEC was the Tebow-Newton campaigns, and those were not hurry up. And I don't think you see those guys running around at the next level.
Maybe RG3 and Vince Young, oh, wait....
Teams that get lesser talent at offensive line and defensive positions might find the scheme to their advantage.
But, it will win less championships.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:50 pm to wahoocs
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He wants rules in place to eliminate it. He feels like it's destroying the integrity of the game. It's a gimmick.
right, because he know's it hurts his defense. He wants everyone to run his style and he will just beat the crap out of everyone because he get's better players.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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right, because he know's it hurts his defense. He wants everyone to run his style and he will just beat the crap out of everyone because he get's better players.
It will only hurt him if everyone is running it.
In a winner take all, he'll win.
You put 4 out of 5 games at that pace, and his chances for getting to the championship are lessened, even though he won't mind facing it with 37 days off for the championship.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:55 pm to wahoocs
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But, it will win less championships.
maybe, maybe not, but I think we discussed this already
Saban is not a dummy, he knows variations of the spread/hurry up will stick around. Everyone thinks the run and shoot went away, but it didn't it just evolved. The Giants run a lot of it and they've won 2 SB's. So to will this. Saban will not coach forever, crediting his titles to style is takeing away from his skill.
To the OP, this is not news and you are really too much of a Saban groupie if you think others don't realize this. Miles as adapted his defense to beat the spread, Saban would rather just change the rules than adapt.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 5:03 pm to wahoocs
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You're the only one fooled.
He wants rules in place to eliminate it. He feels like it's destroying the integrity of the game. It's a gimmick.
He mentions "if they don't do something about it" in your quote.
This ... no huddle is run to prevent defenses from situational substitutions. Defenses with more versatile athletes can counter the no huddle ... you just need well conditioned D-Linemen and fast/athletic LBs. Basically Chavis' defenses are built to counter the no huddle offense ... Saban's not so much.
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