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How much does Ridley's success affect current players opting to leave early?
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:22 am
I was wondering how much seeing a guy like Stevan Ridley leaving early and being drafted in the 3rd round only to end up being the starting RB for the NE Patriots is affecting the decision of some of our players.
If I see something like that I might be thinking "if they just draft me and give me the chance to compete I know I can do that too".
If I see something like that I might be thinking "if they just draft me and give me the chance to compete I know I can do that too".
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:23 am to mytigger
Ridley was actually productive before he left though
If you are referring to the RBs leaving early, it's not a fair comparison.
Ware and Ford were barely utilized, at least this season.
Ridley had nearly 1,200 yards and 15 TDs when he left
If you are referring to the RBs leaving early, it's not a fair comparison.
Ware and Ford were barely utilized, at least this season.
Ridley had nearly 1,200 yards and 15 TDs when he left
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:23 am to mytigger
I think with all the concussion/injury shite, players are realizing it is better to try and get money now because you only have 10 years or so to do it.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:25 am to mytigger
deleted stupid statistic that was way off
Ware is leaving more because of the fact that he won't be a primary back next year than because of Ridley.
Ware is leaving more because of the fact that he won't be a primary back next year than because of Ridley.
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:28 am to TexasTiger1185
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Ridley had consecutive 1000 + rushing yard seasons.
No he didn't.
He only spent one year at LSU as the featured back.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:31 am to TexasTiger1185
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Ridley had consecutive 1000 + rushing yard seasons.
not at LSU he didn't.
to the OP, I think Ridley is part of it, but just mostly LSU having a good number of guys in the league period. players want to go to the NFL and can feel confident that the program has prepared them well (in most cases), and can also actually talk to peers that are in the NFL to help with their decisions.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:33 am to mytigger
I think its the Matt Barkley effect - staying another year then getting hurt and/or underperforming.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:33 am to Broski
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He only spent one year at LSU as the featured back.
He rode the pine for a while, had his opportunity, siezed it, then left - for what everyone presumably thought wasn't his year to leave.
To the other posters referring to Ware - no not the same scenario. I'm just talking about looking at SR's senario in general and saying "hey he got drafted in the 3rd and is starting for the Pats. I don't have to be a 1st round pick to leave early".
The consensus used to be, leave early if you're a first rounder. If you're not wait another year and improve your stock. I'm not sure guys like Ridley aren't changing that old rule of thumb.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:34 am to ATLTiger
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not at LSU he didn't.
Well then where was it?
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:36 am to Broski
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:37 am to mytigger
i think alot of it also has to do with the NFL decreasing the amount rookie first rounders make
the difference between being a first round and fourth round pick 4 years ago was a lot more than it is now, so players had more incentive to try and increase their stock to get drafted in the first round and make first round money
or its because les miles should be fired
the difference between being a first round and fourth round pick 4 years ago was a lot more than it is now, so players had more incentive to try and increase their stock to get drafted in the first round and make first round money
or its because les miles should be fired
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:40 am to ATLTiger
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ATLTiger
Sorry, got you confused with the poster who said he had back to back 1,000 yard seasons.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:45 am to mytigger
Runningbacks already have a short shelf life in the NFL, the less tread on the tires the longer youll have to make money in the pros
If you have a draft grade of 4th round or better, its a no brainer as a RB because if you wait another year youll get a negative report on your draft stock for "taling a lot of carries in college"
If you have a draft grade of 4th round or better, its a no brainer as a RB because if you wait another year youll get a negative report on your draft stock for "taling a lot of carries in college"
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:02 pm to Broski
You're right. I don't know what I was thining with that.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:04 pm to TexasTiger1185
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Ridley had consecutive 1000 + rushing yard seasons. I think he was simply overlooked by the NFL. It ain't easy to rush for 1000 in the SEC, let alone 2 years in a row.
Ridley was used exclusively.
If you use Ford or Ware exclusiely both would have been 1000 + yard backs. Not to mention both can catch the ball to.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:08 pm to mytigger
Couple of things changing minds.
1. The new NFL salary structure. THe money comes on the second contract not on the first.
2. You see players get hurt such as Marcus Lattimore, makes you wonder if it is worth the risk.
3. Success stories like Ridley and other undrafted or low drafted guys. But for every success there is many failures. Ask Trev Faulk.
4. Agents are around the program and convincing kids to convince kids to go. This is just because we have so many draft eligible and/or draftable guys this year.
5. Mob mentality taking place. If all my buddies and guys I came in with are going. Im going too.
1. The new NFL salary structure. THe money comes on the second contract not on the first.
2. You see players get hurt such as Marcus Lattimore, makes you wonder if it is worth the risk.
3. Success stories like Ridley and other undrafted or low drafted guys. But for every success there is many failures. Ask Trev Faulk.
4. Agents are around the program and convincing kids to convince kids to go. This is just because we have so many draft eligible and/or draftable guys this year.
5. Mob mentality taking place. If all my buddies and guys I came in with are going. Im going too.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:31 pm to mytigger
Steven Ridley has actually surprised me with how well he has come on. I hate him because he went to one of my most despised teams, but i respect him. Here at LSU i thought he was very overrated and was not a good back, and wouldnt make it into the NFL at all. I have ate my words... But Ware is leaving for a different reason. LSU is STACKED at Rb, hes never had the oppurtunity to be the exclusive back. And now with Hill being the workhorse, he knew his touches would be even less this season. So i dont blame him, i think he does have what it takes. I dont know if he will be as good as Ridley is now. But Ware reminds me alot of former cowboy Marion Barber, there playstyle seems very similar IMO. So in his own retrospect Ware can be a successful NFL runningback.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:40 pm to mytigger
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mytigger
quote:
How much does NFL Draft Advisory Board's Evaluations affect current players opting to leave early?
FIFY, and greatly.
As for your OP:
quote:
How much does Ridley's success affect current players opting to leave early?
Exactly zero.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:46 pm to TexasTiger1185
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deleted stupid statistic that was way off
Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:20 pm to CP3LSU25
Ware had his opportunities and has been serviceable. He has a nice all around game that translates to the nfl. Him returning to lsu sharing the load with the other rbs will not benefit him so why not leave? His decision makes sense.
To me I don't understand tharold Simon's departure. All of the rest I can understand.
To me I don't understand tharold Simon's departure. All of the rest I can understand.
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