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Let's discuss the "lack of execution" meme

Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:07 pm
1) When your offense is predictable, plays get sniffed out. Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.

2) 5 years of "lack of execution" means AT LEAST 2 separate groups of athletes, considering 4 playing years. Knowing this, how can we NOT say that it is CLEARLY a coaching issue? I am NOT willing to concede that LSU recruits the mentally challenged. These are kids who go on to get major college degrees, they are not 85 Jerrel Powe's.

For the engineers in the room, at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:09 pm to
Lets discuss some more because this is the first thread to be started like this one and there are not 15 other threads on the first page discussing this same exact thing.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:13 pm to
too much truth for the les miles defenders so they cry about it being a repeat thread
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
Not a frick is given by Les and his pumpers.

Shut up and just be happy we played in the Chicken Bowl.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:15 pm to
Roadd,are you not more qualified to discuss the executon of the band or dance line as opposed to the football team?
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:22 pm to
legit points IMO


I prefer this over the other BS spewed round here


lack of execution is a concern. those are monday-friday concerns, practice time etc


problem is none of us can see what happens in practice. do the coaches see that the team as a whole cannot execute things so they don't do them? If they cannot execute...well why? is the play too difficult (please I know, just saying) or are the words coming out of the coaches mouth not reaching the player??

are the players executing at practice then crap themselves in games? if so, why?

Posted by skullopener
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
2182 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects


I think you meant engineers!!!!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19121 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

1) When your offense is predictable, plays get sniffed out. Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.


What I really do not understand is how we have gotten so predictable that we cannot get even one yard when we need it on third down. Is it the scheme, the formation, the speed of the play, line calls,???
Watch other games and see what I am referring to. I watched Stanford run the ball down Wisc's throat and they knew who was going to get the ball and pretty close to where. They did not have this problem. So why have we gone to a situation where five guys are meeting the ballcarrier at the handoff or there are so many people in the hole you couldn't squeeze a piece of broom straw through it.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

For the engineers in the room, at what point do we stop blaming the bricks, and start blaming the architects?


yes, yes. i, for one, am absolutely shocked at your acumen. you know your bricks and that's why i admire you.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 5:53 pm to
First of all, your post is not a discussion, as you've already made up your mind.

That said, look at plays like Copeland completely whiffing a block Monday night that got an easy sack. Or at all the dropped passes this season. And that's the easy stuff for fans to see. We don't know on many plays, where someone missed an assignment.

The offense is very rudimentary, there is no getting around that. It is predictable, painfully so at times. So there is a little of both, poor design and coaching as well as execution.

To me the bigger concern is player development, especially on the OL. Barksdale is the only OL from the last 8 years that was on an NFL roster this year, that's really telling about the talent up front.
Posted by stingercj7
Florida
Member since Oct 2009
160 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:22 am to
Roaad is spot on and many already understand this. It is frustrating when it seems every other team in the country has a much better offense. Every other school large or small has a better qb. I don't understand why and how Mett was sought after to save the offense. I have seen him play fair at best and is too slow. Why does our o line suck so bad? Towson state had a better line. Injuries have hurt us no doubt but our 2nd string should be able to block someone and should be better than a small programs 1st team. Our offense is a joke and I'm referring to the overall plan or lack there of not our players. I'm tired of LSU being the joke of the nation. It has reached a point offensively that our recruiting will start to drop off big time. I'm not a miles lover nor am I screaming for his removal. I lean toward bring in a big name oc, db coach replacement, o line coach, and someone that scout a qb. This is getting lengthy but while we're at it let's have a real qb competition. Last wish.....we need some big physical receivers. Attack away
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20760 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:41 am to
quote:

When your offense is predictable, plays get sniffed out. Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.


Yep. When your scheme does not give you an advantage or attempt to get the defense on the wrong foot, any slight mistake will be glaring. Has been a problem for a while.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:01 am to
Blaming anyone other than the architects is just ludicrous.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4006 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:04 am to
The offense seems to be designed for Forrest Gump type player. Simple minded. We must have alot of Gumps on our offense which limits the complexity of the offense. We need to recruit more Lieutenant Dans and fewer Bubbas and Gumps and then we can expand our offensive complexity.

Gump excelled at Alabama but they were a little more diverse.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Oftentimes this gets erroneously dismissed as faulty execution.


quote:

how can we NOT say that it is CLEARLY a coaching issue?


Does it matter if we call it lack of execution? Lack of execution is a coaching issue.
Posted by gwilging
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Mar 2011
1396 posts
Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:21 am to
You said meme. I see no meme.
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