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re: One of Ohio's best HS football teams/town going to be all over the news

Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:41 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:41 am to
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So what you're saying is he did, in fact, have a chance to defend himself.

being presumed guilty and then having to turn over private documentation to a person with no legitimate reason to assume your guilt is not defending yourself as much as trying to survive a witch hunt. the motherfricker even apologized...when he wasn't even there

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If this kid was facing trial as an accessory to rape, are you saying he wouldn't have supplied his phone records to prove his innocence or something?

the police would have gone to a judge to get a warrant with their PC to get the information necessary to even charge him, and he would have never been charged because he wouldn't have been in a kangaroo court like what anon is running

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There is still record of their arrest and charges. Record that will come up much quicker in future background checks than the current situation.

in most states if you're found not guilty you can expunge the arrest/charge. this kid can't, and he made national news

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And they did it because he fell in line with the evidence they were using against others at the time. Once again, anonymous is sounding a lot like law enforcement.

except law enforcement relies on actual evidence with set standards

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:55 am to
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being presumed guilty and then having to turn over private documentation to a person with no legitimate reason to assume your guilt is not defending yourself as much as trying to survive a witch hunt. the motherfricker even apologized...when he wasn't even there


And around and around in circles you go. If the kid did not have a chance to defend himself, then how did he defend himself?

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the police would have gone to a judge to get a warrant with their PC to get the information necessary to even charge him, and he would have never been charged because he wouldn't have been in a kangaroo court like what anon is running


Another irrelevant circle. In the comparison to the criminal justice you are supposedly doing, this case is already passed the investigation and evidence gathering part and onto the actual trial. So once again, at his actual trial where he was wrongfully accused, would he not have used cell phone records to prove his innocence? And if not, then what is your point?

And also, are you saying that even with a warrant obtained from a judge through probable cause, the police have never wrongfully charged someone based on incorrect evidence? And if not, then what is your point?

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in most states if you're found not guilty you can expunge the arrest/charge. this kid can't, and he made national news


So the arrest/charge will still show up in a background check, just as expunged.

And I'll ask again, what national news has this kid's name gown up in? Where is his name in the NYT article?

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except law enforcement relies on actual evidence with set standards


So that actual evidence with set standards that law enforcement obtains is never planted, falsified, incorrect, incomplete, etc., right?
Posted by CatsGoneWild
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 11:15 am to
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