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boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:35 am to buddhavista)
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1913 was a fricking shitty year for freedom. Not only 16th amendment but also the federal reserve act
so true. private industry had been getting paid from the industrial revolution for 50 or so years so the feds decided they needed to cash in
the country took on a whole new character after that
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buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:36 am to BugAC)
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is spending almost 100% of our GDP
not even close to 100% of our GDP.
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TrueTiger 
LSU Fan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2004
2680 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:41 am to buddhavista)
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What fricking right, does the government have, to feel entitled to my success?
Don't you know?
It's the collectivist philosophy. The collective is more important than the individual. Everything you produce belongs to the collective first, then (if your connected or lucky) you can have a few leftovers.
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CrimsonTideMD 
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2010
761 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:46 am to Scoop)
Depends who you ask.
Ask me: I strongly concur.
Ask Rep Sheila Jackson: while we have worked to fund this system, the societal parasites living off govt entitlements have earned our money somehow 
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7524 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:03 am to Scoop)
No. Fair share. 1%. Doing your civic duty.
:sarcasm:
(what other progressive points am I missing here?)
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constant cough 
New Orleans Saints Fan
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
28432 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:32 am to Powerman)
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OK so let's say since the 1950s
Why the 50s? You said all time. What about the spending levels in the 50s? Can we go back to a 50s sized budget?
And if taxes were so great in 50s then why did Kennedy cut them in the 60s?
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The point is people act like taxes are crippling them as individuals and crippling the economy at large when we have prove that economies have thrived with much higher taxes.
The economy thrived in spite of higher taxes not because of higher taxes. We also had the only intact industrial base in the world in the 50s after a second world war.
Plus in the 50s only a couple of hundred people paid the top tax rate so it didn't affect nearly as many people as what's currently being proposed.
Peter Schiff completely decimated the 1950s tax argument the other day:
LINK
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Ace Midnight
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Ball, LA - Home, Sweet Home
Member since Dec 2006
14892 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:27 am to buddhavista)
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not even close to 100% of our GDP.
No, but debt is getting pretty close, and easily exceeds it when you amortize the unfunded government liabilities (unless you want to just admit that those unfunded liabilities are literally impossible and are just numbers on a page?)...
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buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:38 am to Ace Midnight)
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No, but debt is getting pretty close, and easily exceeds it when you amortize the unfunded government liabilities (unless you want to just admit that those unfunded liabilities are literally impossible and are just numbers on a page?)...
yeah, we aren't going to pay for SS/Medicare for a large segment of the population. or certainly not at the levels promised.
Our debt is a real problem but we the gov't is only spending about 25% of GDP, which is a lot less than 100%.
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Taxing Authority
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
16738 posts
| re: I'm a man. I'm 40. (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:40 am to Scoop)
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Should I be pissed off?
Yes. You've already paid in more than you can get out. From here on out you're working for someone else. You'd be better off saying "Keep what I've paid, just let me out for the rest of my life, and we'll call it even." You'd end up with more income available at retirement.
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