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re: This just doesn't sit right with me. Cowboys supporting Brent.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:15 am to Sophandros
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:15 am to Sophandros
100% shock. The fact that he actually came to and helped is somewhat impressive.
I still cannot believe that NFL players drive drunk with so many services offered to them. And its pretty crazy the family is allowing him to go to the service, I don't think I would have allowed him to go.
I still cannot believe that NFL players drive drunk with so many services offered to them. And its pretty crazy the family is allowing him to go to the service, I don't think I would have allowed him to go.
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:18 am to Byron Bojangles III
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More people need to show forgiveness in this world.
don henley said it best
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:20 am to Sofa King Crimson
Honestly, these guys were best friends and roomates since college. my guess is the had a histroy of partying together. it was random chance that Brent happened to be the one driving that night....they both were likely intoxicated and chose to get in a car together adn my guess is they also frequently drove fast.
Their families knew each other well and they were like brothers.
This isn't like he hit some innocent kid on the street.
I think Brent needs to do time for his crime and he probably won't play football (his name is not Ray Lewis or leanard little or lawrence phillips or Pacman Jones) anymore.
But I have no problem with his team mates and coaches being there for him. they are not condoning what he did.
Their families knew each other well and they were like brothers.
This isn't like he hit some innocent kid on the street.
I think Brent needs to do time for his crime and he probably won't play football (his name is not Ray Lewis or leanard little or lawrence phillips or Pacman Jones) anymore.
But I have no problem with his team mates and coaches being there for him. they are not condoning what he did.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:21 am to Kracka
It's a tough situation all around.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:23 am to Master of Sinanju
That lady needs to shut the frick up.
If I had been drinking and got in a crash and new my best friend was stuck in there, I wouldn't have a clue what to do.
Logic says go help him, but it's natural to freeze. Can't imagine the thoughts going through his head.
Oh shite, I just crashed.
Oh shite, I've been drinking.
Oh shite, I may have killed my best friend.
Oh shite, I could land in jail.
Oh shite, My NFL career is probably over
etc.
If I had been drinking and got in a crash and new my best friend was stuck in there, I wouldn't have a clue what to do.
Logic says go help him, but it's natural to freeze. Can't imagine the thoughts going through his head.
Oh shite, I just crashed.
Oh shite, I've been drinking.
Oh shite, I may have killed my best friend.
Oh shite, I could land in jail.
Oh shite, My NFL career is probably over
etc.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:26 am to Byron Bojangles III
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More people need to show forgiveness in this world.
I think more often than not, there is too much of it shown. Of course I am a cold hearted SOB. Of course I never really gave much thought to the fact that the guy made a choice to get in the car with someone who was impaired. I just know I wouldn't be supporting someoen who was responsible for the death of a family member or teammate. At least not so soon after.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:33 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
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And its pretty crazy the family is allowing him to go to the service, I don't think I would have allowed him to go.
Don't think it's crazy at all. I would have done the same thing.
The guys were best friends. Wouldn't you assume that Brown would want his best friend at his funeral?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:48 am to Walt OReilly
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if i got in a car drunk with one of my best friends that was drunk and we got in a wreck and I died... id hope for my family and friends to not find fault and forgive that person...also wouldnt want him to go to prison either
This. Most of us have all been just as fricked up or more so than our friend who we were totally ok with jumping in the car with. Not defending Brent at all, but both guys are now suffering from an equally bad, irresponsible decision.
meh, but the prison part. This dude is a repeat offender and he could have just as easily killed a pedestrian or someone in another vehicle. You can't let them off the hook for this.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:49 am to Walt OReilly
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yeah until i had read the link i thought the guy tried to do everything he could to help the man
didnt know he was basically forced to go back and retrieve him
But to be fair, we're talking about someone who was clearly in shock at the time, so to judge his actions at that point would be a bit unfair.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:58 am to Sophandros
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But to be fair, we're talking about someone who was clearly in shock at the time, so to judge his actions at that point would be a bit unfair.
Yeah, that bitch comes off as a judgmental attention whore. You can't judge someone in the seconds following such a massive/absolute tragedy like this. We'd like to think we'd be quick to help our friend and totally disregard everything else that's happening...but you never know how you're gonna respond in that situation til it happens. Shock was probably a huge factor, not to mention he was probably physically fricked up as well, head injury etc.
She could have been a little more compassionate than demanding he pulls someone from a burning car while she "grabs a phone", not knowing if this guy is ok or not.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:21 am to Kracka
A friend of mine picked up 7 of his friends from a bar one night. They got turned around on a dark and foggy night. He pulled a u turn and his truck was struck by a rock truck. 6 of the passengers were killed instantly, and another left in critical condition.
The driver broke his pelvis, but was later found to be above the legal limit for alcohol.
In court, the families of each victim asked the judge for leniency.
Sometimes people understand that bad things happen. Sure, the driver was at fault, but they forgave him. Some people are able to see past the mistakes. The guy has his friend's death on his hands.
Sometimes that is enough punishment.
The driver broke his pelvis, but was later found to be above the legal limit for alcohol.
In court, the families of each victim asked the judge for leniency.
Sometimes people understand that bad things happen. Sure, the driver was at fault, but they forgave him. Some people are able to see past the mistakes. The guy has his friend's death on his hands.
Sometimes that is enough punishment.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:25 am to Walt OReilly
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if i got in a car drunk with one of my best friends that was drunk and we got in a wreck and I died... id hope for my family and friends to not find fault and forgive that person...also wouldnt want him to go to prison either
This. A childhood friend of my wife was killed in a car accident about 10 years ago when he got in a car with another friend who had been drinking. They were both drunk, and he was killed when the truck flipped. The mother of the boy who was killed stayed after the D.A. to drop charges against the guy. After about 7 or 8 years of postponements, and the guy driving doing lots of community service, AA meetings, etc., the D.A. dropped the charges. As bad as it sucks for everyone involved, he got in the car.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:26 am to Kracka
Brent is not in anyway responsible for Browns death. Brown is responsible for his own death by getting in the vehicle with him. Brent should be punished for the only crime he committed, that being a second offense DUI. Brent did not make Brown get in the vehicle, Brown made that mistake on his own. There are no victims in the situation other than Brown's family.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:30 am to Byron Bojangles III
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More people need to show forgiveness in this world.
Forgiveness for drunk driving? Frick that. He could've killed a child, or a family, or me.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 11:31 am
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:33 am to Patrick_Bateman
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Forgiveness for drunk driving
Not at all. Should be punished severely for this.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:33 am to Sofa King Crimson
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Brown is more responsible for his own death than Brent, IMO
frick that. In the interest of not getting banned I'll leave it at that.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:35 am to jimithing11
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Oh shite, My NFL career is probably over
He can seek council from stallworth and Leonard Little.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:36 am to GeauxAggie972
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nstead of yelling at him, why not go help Brown herself?
What? Do you not understand the size difference in NFL players and a woman?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:36 am to Byron Bojangles III
did the article about him not pulling him out of the burning vehicle immediately get discussed?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 11:37 am to Patrick_Bateman
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Forgiveness for drunk driving? Frick that. He could've killed a child, or a family, or me.
Well, we'd all care if he hit a child or a family.
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