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faxis
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tiger693 One of my friends just bought a Spirit 22 I think. In Shreveport area. He's going through it over the winter and putting it in Cross Lake next year. Looks like a pretty cool little boat. Spacious. And light. I'm thinking it might be pretty fast. He loves racing.





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tiger693
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Faxis
Your friend won't be disappointed. Those things will scoot across the water as long as the lake will breathe for you-beware the irons of August and make sure the outboard is ready to go at all times. We had an old air-cooled outboard on our 23, you could hear us coming from way off. I'll keep my eyes peeled this spring/summer, I'd love to see another one of those out there. Pretty boats.

OP- keelboats really aren't difficult to learn if you have someone showing you the ropes. If you're learning all by yourself then maybe a Sunfish will be better, but there's only one line on those and you'll have it down pat by week's end. This is all coming from a sailor in NWLA so we don't get much for challenging conditions though...






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Sid in Lakeshore
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Adam,

Faxis' advice is spot on. "You need a sea daddy on Pontchartrain. Check out the yacht clubs down there. Look up websites" is how you should go about this for little or no money. There are low key races each wednesday night during the spring and summer. Many boat owners are BEGGING for crew (crew that can be counted on to be fairly regular). They will teach you "on the water".

Suggest you start by going to one of these 3 websites:
NOYC.org
CSA.org
SSYC.org

All have forums where you can start a thread introducing yourself and asking if anyone needs inexperienced crew (Rail weight). Someone will bite.

I used to sail on Lake Pontchartrain regularly but have not since my children were born. Lost my Catalina 27' in Katrina, that dirty bitch.

Good luck. Careful, can be addictive.






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NimbleCat
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quote:

well then is anyone here local?


You can go to Lake Ponch.

Galveston Bay is a great place to take a course. Kemah Boardwalk has a sailing school. They are good people as well.

As far as sailing in the Gulf...if the boat is designed for blue water sailing, you will be fine.

Another thing that you could look at doing: Try going to The Moorings website and getting a charter in the BVIs. You can get 4-8 people together, rent a boat 37-55 ft depending on the number going. You will need to get a charter captain as well. We went in November and I think it was around $2300 per person for 7 days (airfare, food, booze). We get a discount though due to going every year, your rate might be higher.






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faxis
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I've found over the years that nothing teaches you sailing nearly as well as sailing.

lol


As for the irons of august in NW LA, you ain't kidding. That's when sailboats become swim platforms with a ready made swing. Right up till one of those afternoon storms pops up right on top of you out of nowhere and blows your shite up.

You kinda have to get stupid to challenge yourself up here. We sailed either Ike or Rita on Cross Lake. LOL I mean, why not? It was almost tropical storm speed at it's worst and the waves are only gonna get so big and if it's southerly... get some. Started with just a reefed main in the Catalina and once we got the hang of it we went up with the 110 and rail meat on each sheet. If you're quick, everything is battened down and everyone knows what they're doing and has on life jackets, you can get away with it because while you're shipping green water of all things at times, it's not anything like out on big water. If you get scared, drop sails, anchor if possible, motor if not. You'll probably live.

That's another point... Never underestimate the value of good ground tackle and chain. And tune it to where you're sailing. On Cross Lake in Shreveport I swear by a 18 lb river anchor. I've got two danforth backups but if I get that river anchor down, that bitch ain't going nowhere. I've drug the danforths more than a few times.

Nothing worse than that feeling of realizing your anchor is not holding.






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RogerTheShrubber
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Been looking at this one.



Probably will be sold by the time I decide and get the cash to do it but the price has dropped a bit.







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faxis
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Got a link to the ad? I'm not positive of my ID. To say the least. At first I thought Alberg then Herreschoff and now I'm just completely clueless as to what that is. Cape Dory?

DAMMIT.






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RogerTheShrubber
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LINK

I've seen them for less, and seen them for more but I have looked at this boat and it's in pretty decent shape.






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NimbleCat
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I think the Freeboard is too high to be an Alberg. It looks like a Cape Dory to me.





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NimbleCat
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Roger, Is that a Bay Cruiser or a Coastal Cruiser?

Edit: It will likely need new sails and rigging. That is a lot of money for that boat. Too much imo.



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Adam4LSU
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Thanks for the info, guys I'll get on those forums tomorrow to start posting. Are they pretty friendly? I don't want to jump on there and get OT treatment of 100 GFY's





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faxis
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Yeah what Nimble said. Those sails better look damn good at that price. Because sails on a boat that big are fricking retarded.

There's places down here where that boat sells for about 10K these days. Of course that's probably the cost of getting it to Alaska so there ya go.






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faxis
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As long as you come at it honestly from the level of experience you've got and what your goals are, somebody will take you on. Rail meat these days is not as plentiful as it used to be. Don't feel bad about going on multiple boats till you find a good fit. Crewing on a boat has always been an emotional thing for some people. As has been captaining. You get them out under sail in a position of responsibility and people can lose their shite. The longer they've been doing it, the better off you are. Find that old man that always is up there in the rankings.

That dude can teach you something. That young guy with the flashy new boat might be a win, might be a total dick that can't teach you shite. But that old dude, he's been there, done that, knows what you need to hear and how to deliver it.

Unless he's a dick too.

Those happen.







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RogerTheShrubber
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quote:

Roger, Is that a Bay Cruiser or a Coastal Cruiser?

Edit: It will likely need new sails and rigging. That is a lot of money for that boat. Too much imo.



Yeah, I figure it will come down in price. Nothing is cheap here.






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Adam4LSU
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Would something like this be a good buy?? I'm thinking staying in this general price range to start out and putting some elbow grease into it would be what I would want for a start.
LINK






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faxis
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But if you wanted a new sail, and had an industrial sewing machine....

LINK

Just sayin.






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faxis
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No that would not be a good deal.

Don't pay more than $3K for a Catalina that old unless it's just completely cherry and decked out to the gills with sails and extras.

And if you can, find one that's trailer sailed and freshwater mostly. Saltwater changes a lot of shite you need to look for and there's plenty of Catalina 22s out there that might be a little more of a drive, but would be worth it.

And like I said earlier. For the Catalina 22, unless you're racing, get one later than 86. It has an anchor locker and a fuel locker as well as big ole cockpit scuppers. Just a much better planned out design. Not that the one's prior to that weren't. It's the most popular trailer sailor ever built for a reason, but they did improve it significantly.






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faxis
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Also, discover the joy of LINK







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Adam4LSU
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Any other sites out there other than boats.com and boattrader? I've been looking for a few weeks now and I've seen some pretty good stuff, just want to make sure I'm not missing out on anything.





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faxis
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Sailing Texas. See link above.





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