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Porter Osborne Jr 
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:06 pm to jacks40)
Google is your friend ya lazy bastard.
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GalvoAg 
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Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:07 pm to jacks40)
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I asked for the stats.
Well QBR is a stat so there's that...
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jacks40 
Lamar Fan
Member since Oct 2007
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:09 pm to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Porter Osborne Jr Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB Google is your friend ya lazy bastard.
Or maybe it's because, just for example, in 2010 Bree's had a rating of 90.9 and Ryan 91.00?
OMG a tenth of a point?? Discussion over!!Ryan=best ever!
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GynoSandberg 
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Member since Jan 2006
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:12 pm to tduecen)
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Well then Dilfer = Brees who > Marino.... right?
As a playoff QB? Brees is better than those two. Marino has played 18 playoff games to Brees' 9 to Dilfer's 6.
Bress has a QB rating of 103 in the playoffs.
Marino? 77
Dilfer? 66
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tduecen 
Tulane Fan
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Member since Nov 2006
80891 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:14 pm to GynoSandberg)
BUT THEY HAVE A RING MARINO DOESN'T.....
Keep up Ryan sucks because he hasn't won in 3 playoff games... That was the rationale
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Porter Osborne Jr
Louisville Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:15 pm to jacks40)
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Or maybe it's because, just for example, in 2010 Bree's had a rating of 90.9 and Ryan 91.00?
OMG a tenth of a point??
You said it proves Ryan is mediocre/average. I'm just saying Brees is as well 2 out of 3 if that's the case.
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Discussion over!!Ryan=best ever!
Please point to where I said he was the best ever. Or even an elite qb.
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GynoSandberg
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:21 pm to tduecen)
I follow.
Ryan did suck in his 3 playoff games. It is what it is at this point. That's all you can really judge him on.
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tduecen
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:25 pm to GynoSandberg)
He really didn't...
He was average in 2 of his starts and you could say below avg in 1....
He hasn't done anything to help the Falcons win and I know his QB Rating is 72.8, 69.0, 71.1 in those 3 games but his overall stats have't been horrible. They have just been average at best... maybe that is just my opinion but the Falcons have had bigger issues than Ryan in the 3 playoff games they have faced.
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jacks40
Lamar Fan
Member since Oct 2007
9855 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 8:54 pm to Porter Osborne Jr)
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You said it proves Ryan is mediocre/average. I'm just saying Brees is as well 2 out of 3 if that's the case.
Ok if Brees is a mediocre/average qb 2 out of the last 3 years how many years has Ryan been a mediocre/average qb in your opinion these last 3 years?
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Porter Osborne Jr
Louisville Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:17 pm to jacks40)
None
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jacks40
Lamar Fan
Member since Oct 2007
9855 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:34 pm to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Porter Osborne Jr Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB None
So rather than debate the criteria used to determine who is a good qb or average you would rather play a cat and mouse game trying to use Drew Brees as someone you thought I couldn't DARE say hasn't played well lately?
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acgeaux129 
LSU Fan
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
13806 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:54 pm to gatorhata9)
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Good burn
For a 12 year old
herp derp well gosh golly gee I done goofed up on that one.  
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Porter Osborne Jr
Louisville Fan
Kane Tucky
Member since Sep 2012
3470 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/10/12 at 7:30 am to jacks40)
Cat and mouse? I gave you the criteria in the first post, passer ratings. I used Brees since 95% of this board are Saints fans.
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Sophandros 
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Feb 2005
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:28 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Sure, let's judge an entire career on one game. Sounds fair.
People do worse all the time.
Threads like this are just plain stupid.
Ryan's a good QB who gets a bit overrated because of poor, lazy analysis. He also gets too much criticism from some of his detractors because of poor, lazy analysis.
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Porter Osborne Jr
Louisville Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
3470 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:40 am to Sophandros)
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People do worse all the time.
Threads like this are just plain stupid.
Ryan's a good QB who gets a bit overrated because of poor, lazy analysis. He also gets too much criticism from some of his detractors because of poor, lazy analysis.
I completely agree with you.
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Ford Frenzy
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2010
4039 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/10/12 at 8:51 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Okay, so that makes him a poor qb.
yea it really does
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OceanMan
LSU Fan
Member since Mar 2010
1896 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr)
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Get over what? I'm saying he's a damn good qb.
Just replied to last post 
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swagsurfin7 
Duke Fan
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Member since Dec 2009
3431 posts
| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:06 am to Porter Osborne Jr)
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So Brees has been mediocre/average 2 of the last 3 years as well then.
I hope you're joking
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josh336
LSU Fan
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Member since Jan 2007
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| re: Matt Ryan really isn't a good QB (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:33 am to REG861)
Saints fan here. Ryan has made the jump into the 2nd tier this year
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