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Draconian Sanctions 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:47 pm to MFn GIMP)
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I support gay marriage but I sure as hell don't want it to be implemented via a Supreme Court decision.
Ultimately there's no other way. Congress lacks the spine to do what needs to be done via constitutional amendment.
It was always going to happen though, bigotry always loses.
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SoulGlo
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:49 pm to beachdude)
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Will Kagan recuse herself? She should.
Did she recuse herself for Obamacare?
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Bard 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:50 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think it should be something left up to the voter, especially when it harms no one.
I think more laws should be left up to the voters. Even if they vote along a line I don't agree with (see: last Presidential election) I would still rather more power be returned to voters. Same goes for drug legalization, abortion, prostitution legalization, etc.
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stat19 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 6:04 am to NC_Tigah)
I can't wait for the gays to marry!
Then they get to experience the "bliss" like we do. 
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DCRebel
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:21 am to Poodlebrain)
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What other issues are too important for the voters to decide?
Constitutionality, executive appointments, criminal sentencing, and all of the gobs and gobs of other decisions made by our governments without popular support or decisions.
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DCRebel
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:22 am to Poodlebrain)
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We trust the voters to select the decision makers, but not to make the decisions.
Exactly. We live in a republic. That's how they operate.
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That requires a leap in logic that I just don't follow.
Read the Federalist Papers then. Madison explains it pretty well.
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DCRebel
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:23 am to tigertrax101)
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A man laying with a man is an abomination to God.
Well if your god and your religion says not to bang dudes then don't do it. Simple enough.
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ShortyRob
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:26 am to DCRebel)
I predict that the court will rule gay marriage bans unconstitutional.
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Colonel Toddy 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:40 am to beachdude)
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Will Kagan recuse herself? She should.
Kagan would have had to recuse herself if they took the Gill case. They did not take Gill. They took Windsor.
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Bestbank Tiger 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:46 am to Colonel Toddy)
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Kennedy is the swing vote IMO.
Don't be too surprised if Roberts is on your side, at least for DOMA. Rememebr that one reason Ann Coulter opposed his nomination was that he did some pro bono work for the gay rights side in Romer v. Evans.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:51 am to ShortyRob)
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I predict that the court will rule gay marriage bans unconstitutional.
I lean slightly to the Constitutional side, but it certainly is no slam dunk. I hope this doesn't blow up in peoples' faces as it did in NC. IMO basis of the case is different than interracial and polygamy precedents.
Could go either way. Once it's decided though, it will be hard to undo, however the finding goes.
I don't think we'd be here with CU, and the court might have been more favorable in 4-5yrs. But like I told Toddy and others, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.
June will tell.
This post was edited on 12/8 at 8:50 am
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themunch
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 7:56 am to DCRebel)
Well if your god and your religion says not to bang dudes then don't do it. Simple enough.
this
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:00 am to DCRebel)
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Well if your god and your religion says not to bang dudes then don't do it. Simple enough.
and if your god and religion call for polygamy?
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Patrick O Rly 
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:12 am to NC_Tigah)
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and if your god and religion call for polygamy?
Consenting adults.
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NC_Tigah
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:13 am to Patrick O Rly)
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Consenting adults
There you have it.
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lsutothetop
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:28 am to NC_Tigah)
The echo chamber some (and to be clear not a majority) of the posters in this thread inhabit should be rather interesting the day this decision goes public.
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VOR
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:30 am to tigertrax101)
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This should not even be an issue. A man laying with a man is an abomination to God. Supreme Court should throw this worldly filth out of its court. Lord help this nation to fear you again!
Excuse me, you left your car parked in 1950.
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VOR
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 8:31 am to beachdude)
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Will Kagan recuse herself? She should.
Should heterosexual judges recuse themselves?
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ShortyRob
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 9:47 am to NC_Tigah)
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I lean slightly to the Constitutional side, but it certainly is no slam dunk.
I personally look at it this way. I don't really view it as a constitutional question. I think the govt should be out of the marriage license business ENTIRELY. But, given that it is, then I think the govt should not be in the business of telling adults whom they can marry. I also think polygamy should be legal among consenting adults.
It's just the freedom lover in me.
But that wasn't why I predicted what I did. I simply predicted that purely as a political watcher. I think they'll rule that way and Roberts will again be the key vote and will write the decision.
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DCRebel
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| re: Supreme Court to hear gay marriage cases (Posted on 12/8/12 at 10:00 am to NC_Tigah)
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and if your god and religion call for polygamy?
I honestly don't have a huge problem with polygamy if all of the adults involved are consenting.
It's complicated, I know.
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