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bamafan1001
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a want= why do you have to lie to make any kind of a point?





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los angeles tiger
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Of course it is not a screw up.

Harry Reid does not want Democrats exposed in floor discussions of something that is not only stupid, but likely unconstitutional. He does not want pathetic Democrat policy seeing the light of day in debate. That is the point. Reid wants to circumvent Senate rules to avoid embarrassing his ilk. It will not happen. Any bull shite the WH buffoons try to pass will require a debate on the Senate floor. That debate will continue until 60 Senators feel the issue has been appropriately vetted and consent to end discussion. Then and only then will they call the issue to a vote. It is a Senate mechanism designed to give fair hearing to legislation.

THAT IS THE POINT !



A want and most of his friends do not realize this. A government that quickly pushes legislation through is the one that changes into what we saw in Europe and Asia a whole lot in the 20th century. The process we have was deliberately made to make it very slow so it would be completely thought through and debated. Sadly we have more people like A Want that prefer the Reid & Pelosi system of "We must pass it first and then see what's in it." A Want and his friends consider that to be the wise way of doing government.

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Ignoring those rules and their rational is ignoring reality, which is something Harry Reid specializes in.


It goes along with ignoring that rule about passing a budget every year that is the Senate is supposed to do as well according to the Constitution.






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NC_Tigah
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Whatever you say, man
It is not a matter of what I say.
It is a matter of fact.

Period.

Stop embarrassing yourself. I understood where you were sourcing the OP. Your sources are FOS liars. That should be crystal clear to you at this point. You trusted them on their face. They let you down. You got called on it. Persisting in this charade is beneath you, a want. It just is.

Do you understand WTF a filibuster is?
Of course you do.

Did McConnell filibuster?
Of course he didn't.

You know that.
If you didn't know it before, you do now.

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The larger issue you need to address is any continued trust of those duplicitous sources you cited.





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PuntBamaPunt
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Did McConnell filibuster?
Of course he didn't.








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moneyg
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Do you dumb arse progressives realize all your doing is setting yourselves up for disaster with finally getting the control of power back in DC?

Some conservative in the next 2-3 presidential cycles is gonna frick your world.



It has never even crossed their mind that all of this power they are giving will at some point be in the hands of people who disagree with them.






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moneyg
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NC_ has bitch slapped you for lying in your thread title and he made you look like a fool in the process.



That is the truth.






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LeClerc
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So what was he objecting to tigah? Why did Mitch McConnell say the words, "I object" when Reid called for a vote? By all or most accounts that amounted to a filibuster.

I mean if these are just the views of Liberal rags, indeed "duplicitous" and don't warrant legitimate consideration, then what is your view of what happened? Are you saying that none of this happened the way they said it did? They just made all of this up?



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sugar71
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So what was he objecting to tigah? Why did Mitch McConnell say the words, "I object" when Reid called for a vote? By all or most accounts that amounted to a filibuster.

I mean if these are just the views of Liberal rags, indeed, "duplicitous" and don't warrant legitimate consideration, then what is your view of what happened? Are you saying that none of this happened the way they said it did? They just made all of this up?


McConnell got his arse handed to him is what happened. It was McConnells own proposal & Harry Reid made him object to it even being voted on


McConnell claimed that Democrats wouldn't support it & Reid said let's vote & see


Not unusual for Republicans to vote against their own legislation/proposals lately.








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LeClerc
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Well that's the way I see it too but tigah says no, that it was never filibustered and that we libs are just making all this up.





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DapperDan
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McConnell got his arse handed to him is what happened. It was McConnells own proposal & Harry Reid made him object to it even being voted on


Do you understand the procedural change Reid made that would lead to an objection? This is what is so frustrating to me about liberals. The facts and actual details of stories don't matter. Just the PR and "winning". Its pathetic.



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LeClerc
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I am asking a legitimate question. What was McConnell objecting to?





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LeClerc
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And to say that all we care about is winning is CRAP. It's just the opposite. Remember the debt ceiling deal last year, that was all about trying to make Obama look bad. Remember the Cantor quote, "let's make this his Waterloo."





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moneyg
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I am asking a legitimate question. What was McConnell objecting to?



Did you even read the OP or the link?






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a want
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That is the truth.


You, too, need to re-read the thread.






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DapperDan
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Skipping the debate on the floor and lowring the number of votes needed for it to pass.





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NC_ has bitch slapped you for lying in your thread title and he made you look like a fool in the process.



That is the truth.


Exactly - if this were a boxing bout, it would have been called when NC uppercut him with his very first response.






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LeClerc
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Yes of course I did. Sounds like a filibuster to me.

I was trying to get the others to tell me. They say it wasn't a filibuster. What was he objecting to? Sounds to me like Reid beat McConnell at his own game.






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LeClerc
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Skipping the debate on the floor and lowring the number of votes needed for it to pass.


So McConnell objected to this so that the measure could not come up for a vote? Why not? Why object to that? I mean if he's the one that presented the bill in the first place?



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13SaintTiger
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Exactly - if this were a boxing bout, it would have been called when NC uppercut him with his very first response.


Actually NC is making himself look like a dumb ass. Mcconnell objected on his own bill.






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jamboybarry
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Actually NC is making himself look like a dumb ass. Mcconnell objected on his own bill.


lulz at you

McConnell objected to the lack of debate on his bill. You know, the way the senate almost always operates?






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