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re: When do we start putting the blame on Monty Williams?

Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by 42
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:43 pm to
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I really believe it's just talent. Monty has shown clever sets and plays in the past. You can't scheme such a huge talent deficit like the Hornets have without Gordon and Davis.

Also other teams just don't take the Hornets seriously. Look at Miami v the depleted Spurs and against the Wizards. Miami took those games for granted when they both should have been blowout wins. It happens in an overly long regular season when teams only care about the playoffs


Yes. This is the way I'm leaning at the moment. I was acknowledging why it might appear to be coaching, and that it could be, but the disparity between 1st and third quarter results seems to point away from that to a degree.

Eichenfhofer had this:

4th quarter is Hornets' best so far (rank 6th in NBA in scoring margin). Rank 13th in first quarter; 26th in second quarter; 30th in third

LINK

Saves some research.

Points to talent, not coaching.

Why is it better in the 4th? we can advance the score in garbage time and Anderson got lots of bench minutes early on.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:47 pm to
I can't remember because seems forever ago but didn't we struggle in 3rd in Montys first year? Seems like we had to have some huge 4th.quarters.from some players then
Posted by GrandeBeli
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:49 pm to
4th quarter is also the time when a losing team like this is playing against the bench of the opposing team....cant take that stat seriously. Hornets are terrible in the 3rd and that says alot.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:18 pm to
Nice stat. Agree completely
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:25 pm to
LINK /

Nice write up from SI on the game. Sounds like he sees what we see in terms of lack of talent

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 The halftime break offered the Lakers an opportunity to gather themselves and reinforce their specific goals for the game. Among those goals was the victimization of the hapless Hornets; not all that many of New Orleans’ players are confident ball-handlers or passers, making the entire team very vulnerable to swarms of pressure from unexpected directions. Bryant (who logged three steals for the evening, and thrived in transition en route to 29 points) was particularly effective in attacking Hornets players from their blind side, sometimes streaking all the way across the court in his attempts to swipe the ball away. Against most opponents, that kind of gamble would result in the Lakers getting burned with a quick pass-out and an open shot. But on this occasion, players like Austin Rivers and Roger Mason Jr. — who were already pressured by their own defenders — struggled to identify Bryant’s gambit before it was too late.Ultimately, it was the ripple effects of that heavy pressure that doomed the Hornets’ offense. New Orleans’ turnover numbers (12 TOs overall, which on a per-possession basis is actually better than their season average) weren’t at all damning, but their play progression was regularly derailed by the Lakers flocking as a team toward the ball. On a given possession, a Metta World Peace tip, the ensuing bobble, and Dwight Howard hedge later, and the shot clock had already begun to close in on the Hornets from behind — forcing them into rushed execution and difficult attempts. New Orleans handled that pressure well in spots, but simply failed to do so consistently against an opponent committed to disrupting their passes and dribbles with active hands.


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New Orleans has been surprisingly decent on offense this year, and their scoring output on a per-possession basis registered as the 13th best mark in the league coming into this game. But their personnel only allows for a fairly simple approach, particularly with Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon out of the lineup. Hornets head coach Monty Williams has his team running their pet play actions well, but executing simple sets reliably shouldn’t soon be confused with resilient offense. At the moment, the Hornets’ arsenal is dependable — it just isn’t particularly adaptable. Such is inevitable when the entire machine hinges on Greivis Vasquez, who put together a solid 16 points, nine assists, and five rebounds but can’t well carry the creative load of an entire team when the Lakers are coming at him in waves.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 11:29 pm
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