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VOR 
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:46 pm to baybeefeetz)
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It's because you're not smart enough, VOR.
Apparently.
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Your weak little heart loves the state, too.
Whatever. As long as it leaves me alone . . . which it has so far as long as I don't drive drunk or otherwise frick up.
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You suck its tits or whatever.
Quick question. Man mades or natural?
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:48 pm to Mike da Tigah)
What did the Supreme Court say? Like a 1000 feet up, naked eye observation by police doesn't violate expectation of privacy?
Yeah, I guess that opened the door, but to me it's common sense. If you are out in the open area, even in a fenced in backyard, you are subject to being seen. You just are.
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WikiTiger 
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:48 pm to baybeefeetz)
Where do you personally draw the line?
Earlier you said seeing into your shower would not be acceptable.
About 12 years ago we had the state using infrared imaging to see inside houses. The Scotus ruled it unconstitutional. Were the people that were against that also crazy looney anti state kooks?
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:50 pm to WikiTiger)
Nope. They were seeing into the house. That's waht teh court found unconst about it. They were peering into and "seeing" what could not be seen without seeing through the roof that was meant to cover their heads. I am familiar with the case.
I draw teh line at an intrusion into what I think is a reasonable feeling of seclusion. In my shed: private. In my back yard, semi-private. To me, that's out in the open. You are not trying hard not to be seen if you do your dirt in your open air backyard.
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WikiTiger
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:50 pm to baybeefeetz)
What about the collection and analysis of all your electronic communication and activities?
Is that ok?
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:52 pm to WikiTiger)
Considering that I pay some random-ass company to let my computer talk over their computer to other peopeles' computers, yeah, I figure that's not that private.
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VOR
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:52 pm to baybeefeetz)
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You are not trying hard not to be seen if you do your dirt in your open air backyard.
When I was in college, I had sex with a girl on the banks of a lake in broad daylight. I did not give a shite. Don't give a shite now. I love America.
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:54 pm to VOR)
See me, I did my outdoor boning under the side-roof of a building near my football stadium, so as not to be seen from above. And it was dark, so I felt that while I could still be seen, the likelihood of me being seen was decreased.
I did care, but I was willing to chance it for the sneaky thrill.
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WikiTiger
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:54 pm to baybeefeetz)
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, I figure that's not that private.
What if you choose to use encryption to communicate...should the government be allowed to intercept and crack it without a warrant?
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:55 pm to baybeefeetz)
Infrared cameras can see through walls.
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:58 pm to WikiTiger)
That's a tough one. On the one hand, I am doing the equivalent of shouting on the street corner in a language I THINK nobody else understands, but really I can't be sure.
On the other hand, I sending coded messages through tubes underground. BUT, I don't own the tubes or the ground, adn I'm not even sure to what extend the owners of the tubes/ground promised to keep my messages secret, so how is that an invasion of MY privacy?
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:59 pm to Mike da Tigah)
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Infrared cameras can see through walls.
That is exactly what we were discussing. Roofs, walls, whatever. They were literally peering into the home, and not through a window.
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VOR
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:00 pm to baybeefeetz)
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Considering that I pay some random-ass company to let my computer talk over their computer to other peopeles' computers, yeah, I figure that's not that private.
So what you're saying is that my discussing my extra-marital affairs and cocaine fun is not a good idea? 
ETA: This board is confidential, right?
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:02 pm to baybeefeetz)
I need to go to bed before Wiki comes up with a real stumper, but for real: you need to understand that for some people it's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of not really believing we are "in private" as much as some people think.
The ironic thing is that I think in my case it comes from being somewhat paranoid. LINK
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baybeefeetz
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:03 pm to VOR)
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This board is confidential, right?
Definitely. And going "incognito" in Google chrome will keep the cops from finding out that you are researching a sex tourism trip.
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LSUgusto
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:03 pm to Mike da Tigah)
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how in the hell did we take such a nose dive so fast to the shitter?
People have been dumbed down by a partisan media, ideological education and feel exempted from the policies they advocate for others.
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BayouBandit24
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:03 pm to Brosef Stalin)
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The drones are only there to look for terrorists and are for your protection.
yea completely true..... 
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WikiTiger
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:03 pm to baybeefeetz)
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BUT, I don't own the tubes or the ground, adn I'm not even sure to what extend the owners of the tubes/ground promised to keep my messages secret, so how is that an invasion of MY privacy?
Can the government legally open and read a piece of mail that you send through the USPS without a warrant? After all you don't own the postal route, and you did use a third party.
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VOR
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:04 pm to baybeefeetz)
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a sex tourism trip.
Link?
TIA
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WikiTiger
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| re: 1984 the year and the novel. (Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:06 pm to baybeefeetz)
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before Wiki comes up with a real stumper
I'm just enjoying letting you hang yourself. Your lack of understanding of the concepts of private communication even as acknowledged by the government is humorous.
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