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re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias

Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:17 am to
So what exactly makes a conspiacy more likely than a trend of discipline?

You can be an average football player and a disciplined football player at the same time. This is getting a little ridiculous, as many have already pointed out. The sooner y'all enjoy and savor what's transpiring in baton rouge as opposed to steaming about what's going on in tuscaloosa, the happier everryone will be
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:24 am to
I didn't make a judgment on it. I just posted the facts. People can decide for themselves whether they think there's bias involved.
Posted by LSUBCILUVTHEM
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:25 am to
There is a conflict of interest and LSU fans are not 'whining' here. The SEC offices in B'ham would not be an issue if it were not for the UAT employees who reside over officiating and scheduling that have demonstrated bias. The data in this thread leans to the proof of the conflict.

This is not allowed in any current business demonstrating integrity.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:31 am to
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So what exactly makes a conspiacy more likely than a trend of discipline?



The fact that the discipline variable is accounted for. The same coach has coached at both schools. Theoretically, when Saban was at LSU, LSU should have shown the discipline that Alabama has. That wasn't the case. The trend has remained the same under different coaches and players, and even the same coach at each school.



ETA: And evidence of a bias DOES NOT mean evidence of a conspiracy. There can be bias without a conspiracy.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 10:33 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:32 am to
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So what exactly makes a conspiacy more likely than a trend of discipline?

You can be an average football player and a disciplined football player at the same time.


Are you suggesting there is some sort of discipline ethic at BAMA that survives from coach to coach...and a lack of discipline ethic that survives at LSU from coach to coach?

If Saban's LSU teams would have been equally, or even in the same ballpark, as less penalized as his BAMA squads I'd tend to agree with you...but they weren't. Much the same way the SEC told him to go piss up a rope when he complained about playing Arky the day after Thanksgiving every year, but IMMEDIATELY reversed their decision to move the Iron Bowl to that day when Nick threw a hissy fit about it...I think being BAMA seems to carry weight.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:43 am to
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You can be an average football player and a disciplined football player at the same time. This is getting a little ridiculous, as many have already pointed out.


It's just black and white Rise......plain and simple.

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The sooner y'all enjoy and savor what's transpiring in baton rouge as opposed to steaming about what's going on in tuscaloosa, the happier everryone will be


What does this have to do with the thread.....the VAST majority of LSU fans enjoy winning and it's been a great ride that will continue.

But

It's fishy and just calling LSU fans and insecure still doesn't explain why Bama seems to get preferential treatment. Honestly, I don't think they need it.
Posted by txtiger21
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:46 am to
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So what exactly makes a conspiacy more likely than a trend of discipline?


A large amount of data. You need to span multiple coaching regimes (I would say at least 3). And even then it would likely be difficult to distinguish between discipline and bias.

FWIW here are each teams rank in Penalties per SEC game over the past 6 years:


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