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BeeFense5  Notre Dame Fan New Orleans Member since Jul 2010 15787 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:23 pm to mograyback)
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Great, then blame our government as a whole. This partisan stuff is out of control. Thanks Obama... that makes no sense.
You are in full blown Obama defense riot gear right now. Why take Obama criticism so personally?
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71771 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:24 pm to Jbird)
That moron will defend Obama's involvement in the "war on terror" Sheep will be sheep.
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HempHead  Alabama Fan Appalachia Member since Mar 2011 10139 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:24 pm to Jbird)
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Hahaahha so FEMA was Bush's fault in Katrina and this dip shite gets a pass for FEAM and Sandy from you sweet deal!
Unless I am functionally illiterate, I do not believe that was the point he was making. Government agencies have more discretion and sovereignty from our elected officials than we might like.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:24 pm to Jbird)
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Hahaahha so FEMA was Bush's fault in Katrina and this dip shite gets a pass for FEAM and Sandy from you sweet deal!
What? What are you even saying here.. Please man, everyone isn't a politard. This two sided war between parties is a suckers game. I'm not apart of it. I'm not an dem or republican.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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That moron will defend Obama's involvement in the "war on terror" Sheep will be sheep.
I'm not defending anything. I just find it absolutely historical that you guys point the finger at Obama for this.. You guys have such blinders on because you're so entrenched into your political party.
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:27 pm to mograyback)
Please tell me why you feel the CinC needs a pass on everything, people on here shite on Bush for years over FEMA and Katrina, you may have been one of them. Along comes Obama and all of these agencies are independent from any impact or direction from the Cinc, what a cool job!
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:29 pm to HempHead)
That may be the case, however he tossed FEMA in and I felt it was worth pointing out that people shite on Bush over FEMA and it is shockinglyt quiet with Obama, hypocrites everyone who is now silent.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71771 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:30 pm to mograyback)
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I'm not defending anything. I just find it absolutely historical that you guys point the finger at Obama for this.. You guys have such blinders on because you're so entrenched into your political party.
Only a true dumbass would believe this. Most of us don't have a party. We bashed bush left and right over his involvement in the "war on terror." More libertarian leaning than conservative here. While most of us can see both firmly involved, you make excuses for Obama. Typical.
This post was edited on 12/2 at 9:31 pm
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:30 pm to Jbird)
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Please tell me why you feel the CinC needs a pass on everything, people on here shite on Bush for years over FEMA and Katrina, you may have been one of them. Along comes Obama and all of these agencies are independent from any impact or direction from the Cinc, what a cool job!
Pal, what the hell are you talking about? Do you realize how severely damaged your brain is to automatically label me as a democrat just because I say what I say... news flash, everyone isn't a deeply entrenched republican and democrat. There are a few free thinkers out there.. The point I made is the president doesn't have complete control over agencies like the NSA-CIA and even FEMA. That's just how it is.. now foam at the mouth and tell me more about Bush and Katrina.
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BeeFense5  Notre Dame Fan New Orleans Member since Jul 2010 15787 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:32 pm to mograyback)
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There are a few free thinkers out there..
Truth. But you aren't describing yourself.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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While most of us can see both firmly involved, you make excuses for Obama. Typical.
Haha, what? What excuse did I make for Obama? I just said this OP is historical. "Good job Obama".. really?? How about "Good job US government". Pointing your finger at Obama for this is nothing but political hatred, that is all. Explaining that organizations like the NSA-CIA are monsters that do what they do isn't an excuse, it's just the way it is.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:35 pm to BeeFense5)
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Truth. But you aren't describing yourself.
(drum roll). You got me dude.. good one. I guess the free thinkers are the ones that blame Obama for a decades worth of intrusive surveillance. My bad.
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:36 pm to mograyback)
Who named Obama's director of the CIA,FBI,NSA and even FEMA for him if he didn't? They are his directors, thus his responsibility.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:37 pm to Jbird)
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Jbird
Jbird, if you want to blame Obama for at least 10 years of surveillance then by all means go for it dude. I guess we can blame Bush for not banishing all forms of welfare.. I mean he was in office for 8 years. What's his excuse for not ending that policy? This retarded comment is the same logic you guys are using.
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OMLandshark  Ole Miss Fan Beijing, China Member since Apr 2009 26134 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Most of us don't have a party. We bashed bush left and right over his involvement in the "war on terror." More libertarian leaning than conservative here.
I just don't think 90% of this board knows what it means to be a libertarian. Most of this board isn't libertarian and more hardcore Republican.
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:42 pm to mograyback)
Listen Pal the point is Obama IS Bush they both suck balls, he is the President, he named the directors. They work directly for the President, they ALL do reviews of programs and policies when they come in with their staff. With the fact that Obama ran on how horrible Bush was and that things like the Patriot Act were rotten you would assume that as President he would end such programs. What did he do, well we still have everything in place including the Patriot Act. I guess some people are free from resopnsibility no matter what.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71771 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:44 pm to mograyback)
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Jbird, if you want to blame Obama for at least 10 years of surveillance then by all means go for it dude.
4. And it's deserved. BushObama going on 13 years.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 71771 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:45 pm to OMLandshark)
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I just don't think 90% of this board knows what it means to be a libertarian. Most of this board isn't libertarian and more hardcore Republican.
"Libertarian leaning" and yes, it's more a lean this way than mainstream R.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
Libertarians crack me up. Especially the online forum variety. Totally not surprised by your allegiance Rog.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5481 posts

| re: Here's further proof the "War On Terror" has been a farce (Posted on 12/2/12 at 9:49 pm to Jbird)
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Listen Pal the point is Obama IS Bush they both suck balls, he is the President, he named the directors. They work directly for the President, they ALL do reviews of programs and policies when they come in with their staff. With the fact that Obama ran on how horrible Bush was and that things like the Patriot Act were rotten you would assume that as President he would end such programs. What did he do, well we still have everything in place including the Patriot Act. I guess some people are free from resopnsibility no matter what.
If you really think things like the Patriot Act would be undone you're crazy. Again, I'll use your logic. If republicans think welfare is so bad, then why hasn't a republican president eliminated it while in office? Because it's impossible. Technically it might be possible, but it is impossible. Simply blaming Obama for this is a joke. The OP should read "Good job government" not Obama.
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